PowerScheduler++ 1.4.0.x - Stable versions for MediaPortal 1.4 (4 Viewers)

[RicoHTPC]

@doveman: I agree totally with what you've said because I too couldn't see the point in having live tv running after resuming
from standby but I don't think that this is what Vasilich intends. I think the key is his last sentence of your quote.

 

[Lehmden]

Hi.
I had a very weird experience tonite. I'm running PS++ 1.2.3.7 on MP 1.3. So far so good. I had scheduled some recordings last night. PC wake up two or three times, do all the recordings and then go to S3. Exactly as expected and wanted.

But today PS++ is not installed any more!!! Have I ghosts in the house?

As I switched on HTPC a few minutes ago I can see, PS++ isn't running any more. Looking at SetupTV shows normal PowerSheduler is installed but not activated... I had to reinstall PS++ For now it looks as if all is back to normal.
Logs did not show anything (as usual)...
Could someone explain me how this could be happen when no one is there (I was alone last night and I did not walk asleep)?
No harm was done but this really is weird..
This is NOT an early "April fool" also it looks like..

 

[doveman]

@doveman: I agree totally with what you've said because I too couldn't see the point in having live tv running after resuming
from standby but I don't think that this is what Vasilich intends. I think the key is his last sentence of your quote.

What he appears to be saying is that MP DOES currently resume LiveTV when coming out of standby (I haven't tested to confirm) and that this prevents it going back into standby if it has been woken to start a scheduled recording and he'd like the LiveTV to be automatically stopped when this is why it's been woken, in order to allow it to go back to standby.

Which makes even less sense to me as he seems to be saying that he thinks that MP SHOULD resume LiveTV on the last channel on coming out of standby, as this is what STB do and it increase the WAF but that sometimes (i.e. if it has previously woken to make a scheduled recording) it SHOULDN'T resume LiveTV on the last channel, which if that feature is so important is surely going to decrease the WAF and make it confusing by presenting the user with different states on resume.

As I say, much more sensible and family friendly just to always present the EPG on resume I think (assuming TV is the main use of course, if it's Music or Videos, then resume to those. I'm not sure if MPStartIt can be used to do this, other than by restarting MP on resume which is undesirable due to the time it takes but I don't think there's a 1.3RC compatible version of it yet). https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/mpstartit-start-mediaportal-with-specific-plugin.84578/

 

[Vasilich]

[offtopic]@doveman
i have my mother-in-law as guest at home. And she is the person watching TV at most. I live in Germany, and she came from Russia without knowledge of any foreign language. I have only 6 russian channels here over DVB-S, so the chance that she wants to watch same channel as yesterday is rather big. And she has a habbit to press power button if she doesn't watch TV anymore - exactly as she does with TV at her home.
I hope you now understand that there are many possible usage variants of MP, not only yours.
[/offtopic]

 

[w8andc]

I have a problem about EPG grabbing and PowerScheduler 1.2.3.7.

I want to use the inbuilt DVB-EPG grabber, but doesn't want to use the "idle" EPG-grabbing function for different reasons and would let start EPG grabbing by PowerScheduler++. As is stated in the PowerScheduler WIKI pages it should be possible to start the inbuilt EPG grabbing function:

PowerScheduler++ can start EPG grabbing at a given time on each of the selected days. All defined EPG grabbing sources (the built-in DVB EPG and all enabled EPG grabber plugins) are triggered. If no day is selected, EPG grabbing will not be started by PowerScheduler++.

So I disabled "EPG grabbing when idle" in the DVB EPG section in MP TV-server configuration. All grouped and visible channels are checked to grab EPG in the TV and Radio EPG grabber subsection. In the EPG section of the PowerScheduler plugin the time to wake up , days when grabbing has to take place and all checkboxes are activated and checked.

Problem: PowerScheduler++ wakes computer from sleep, but there is no grabbing taken place. For some reason the inbuilt EPG grabber function doesn't start. Do I have to check "idle grabbing" or are some other settngs needed to start the inbuilt EPG grabber by PowerScheduler? I have to say it never worked in either which PowerScheduler++ version I've used.
When "idle grabbing" is checked, EPG grabbing is starting imediately and EPG information is saved in database.

 

[doveman]

[offtopic]@doveman
i have my mother-in-law as guest at home. And she is the person watching TV at most. I live in Germany, and she came from Russia without knowledge of any foreign language. I have only 6 russian channels here over DVB-S, so the chance that she wants to watch same channel as yesterday is rather big. And she has a habbit to press power button if she doesn't watch TV anymore - exactly as she does with TV at her home.
I hope you now understand that there are many possible usage variants of MP, not only yours.
[/offtopic]

Of course there will always be different uses of MP. I always feel like I have the least amount of channels reading other peoples posts about their hundred channel Freesat setups.

No disrespect to you or your mother-in-law, I just think that MP (or any other program or STB) has to be designed to suit the majority and I think that will be people who don't want to watch the same channel every day and so it makes more sense to present the EPG at power-on than the last channel.

Perhaps a good way to help make life easy for your mother-in-law would be to make a channel group with only those six russian channels. Then when it resumes to the EPG she will only see those to choose from.

 

[michael_t]

Problem: PowerScheduler++ wakes computer from sleep, but there is no grabbing taken place.

I am sorry, but I have no idea how EPG grabbing works. You should probably post your problem to another thread.

Michael

 

[doveman]

So I disabled "EPG grabbing when idle" in the DVB EPG section in MP TV-server configuration. All grouped and visible channels are checked to grab EPG in the TV and Radio EPG grabber subsection. In the EPG section of the PowerScheduler plugin the time to wake up , days when grabbing has to take place and all checkboxes are activated and checked.

Problem: PowerScheduler++ wakes computer from sleep, but there is no grabbing taken place. For some reason the inbuilt EPG grabber function doesn't start. Do I have to check "idle grabbing" or are some other settngs needed to start the inbuilt EPG grabber by PowerScheduler? I have to say it never worked in either which PowerScheduler++ version I've used.
When "idle grabbing" is checked, EPG grabbing is starting imediately and EPG information is saved in database.

I don't use the PS++ EPG settings and just have the normal EPG settings on Grab Whilst Timeshifting and Grab Whilst Idle but I can tell you that there's a bug in the grabbing, so if you're using Freeview DVB-T certainly, you need to just select one channel to grab on (i.e. BBC ONE) in the TV EPG Grabber section and UNTICK Store data only for selected channels. Untick all the Radio channels as well as the grab on BBC One will get the EPG data for the Radio channels as well.

 

[w8andc]

I'm on satellite : Astra 1 + 3 (TV-Vlaanderen -Flemish/Dutch channels + German channels) + Astra 2 (English channels). As I already have said, EPG grabbing works without problems if "idle grabbing" is selected. The problem is starting EPG grabbing by PowerScheduler++ in case "idle EPG grabbing" is OFF. So, there is probably an EPG grabbing bug. I suppose so. Thanks for the tip to uncheck the option "store date only for selected channels". But if I understand this correct, in this case the EPG will be grabbed for ALL channels. This is not needed and it will take even more time to grab the wanted EPG information for some channels. I will do a final test with "store date ..." off + idle epg off and let start EPG by PowerScheduler++. PowerScheduller++ is supposed to do so this night at 3 o'clock. Tomorrow I can tell more.

 

[Lightning303]

I'm on satellite : Astra 1 + 3 (TV-Vlaanderen -Flemish/Dutch channels + German channels) + Astra 2 (English channels). As I already have said, EPG grabbing works without problems if "idle grabbing" is selected. The problem is starting EPG grabbing by PowerScheduler++ in case "idle EPG grabbing" is OFF. So, there is probably an EPG grabbing bug. I suppose so. Thanks for the tip to uncheck the option "store date only for selected channels". But if I understand this correct, in this case the EPG will be grabbed for ALL channels. This is not needed and it will take even more time to grab the wanted EPG information for some channels. I will do a final test with "store date ..." off + idle epg off and let start EPG by PowerScheduler++. PowerScheduller++ is supposed to do so this night at 3 o'clock. Tomorrow I can tell more.

As far as i know, "idle epg grabbing" means that tvserver can grab epg even if you are not watching tv. So if you want to start your htpc in the night to grab epg, you would need to enable idle grabbing, or you would have to turn live tv on... Hope i could help.