SAF v4.00 ''stable'' (StandAlone Filters) - DXVA ready (H.264 and VC-1). (24 Viewers)

Should i integrate FFDshow in to SAF?

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DAx_dk

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Hi

Just wanted to remind everyone whose using with SAF, that it's good practice to uninstall all others codecs (as stated on page 1 by Hoborg), but I just found out that using CCleaner after uninstalling other codecs and before installing SAF, is even better...

Yeah, you might think "of course dude, what were you doing before that" --> well nothing, but all of the sudden I had to.

So perhaps, this should also be on page 1 to ensure everyone whose going to use SAF, that they probably get the right result the first time they try, if they use CCleaner (it's free... right)

DAx

PS:
beta24(unlocked) working smoothly for now with all local media :D :thumbs up:

See my specs on the left
 

etheesdad

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    Hey guys I have a working PowerDVD 7.3 and SAF setup going, it's all got to do with the order in which you install the programs and a lot of CCleaner. :)

    Uninstall all PDVD and SAF components...
    Run CCLeaner
    Install all PDVD components
    Restart Computer
    Install SAF 3.49Beta22
    WOLA!

    If you uninstall SAF at any point after this, your PDVD will be come unusable as it seems to deregister the program, including CD Key? There for, have to go through the process again... Hope this helps..

    PS: Works fine with 1.02 even though you get the warning must use ALPHA message! :)

    Thanks very much for your post - it worked!

    :D :D :D :D :D
     

    edterbak

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    Hi Hoborg,

    Now and then I see you are referring to "SAF (unlocked)". I am a bit curious about what is unlocked? To what is this referring and/or what does it mean for us?
    Thanks !
     

    hoborg

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    Hi horborg

    I did a reformat -> XP SP3, ATI 9.7 (HD4670), MP 1.1 Alpha, quartz security update

    Then install PDVD9 H264 Codec as standalone codec install (Using HDPack 2.2)
    (ie without installing PDVD software)

    Then i installed latest SAF beta using your instructions of that special file in system32 directory
    Everything working well
    HDTV h264 working well using PDVD9 H264
    My Videos seem to be working well using SAF (MPCVideoDec)

    Thanks a lot

    One thing that is missing from SAF is good support for 5.1 AAC over SPDIF
    The problem is that nearly all receivers can't support multichannel AAC decoding
    Therefore if use SPDIF and don't downmix to stereo then you will basically mute the center channel dialog
    If you downmix to stereo, then the sound is good, but you loose your 5.1 advantage

    Solution: Install FFDShow audio codec and use that codec for AAC, FFDShow will decode 5.1 AAC -> 5.1 AC3. When you install FFDShow unfortunately it also installs video codec, so you must unselect all options except for AAC. You should also block MP from access FFDShow Video codecs, by removing mediaportal from the list of allowable programs during the video codec install.

    Now I have MPA Audio decoder (SPDIF) decoding/pass through all sounds except for AAC which is handled by FFDShow.

    NB - I originally tried using the following graph
    Video -> Splitter -> Monogram AAC -> AC3Filter (Post processing)
    But this messed up the channel order because the channel order in AAC is different to AC3, ie Center AAC channel will come out the front right channel if you use AC3 for post processing.

    EDIT: Hoborg, do you use the ATI registry hack to get consistent grey levels between SD and HD video. If you google people state that one using 16-235 levels and one uses 0-255 levels, the fix is supposed to make sure they both use the same format.

    EDIT(2): I noticed that post installing SAF the AAC decoder was set to MPA rather than Monogram AAC. (This was prior to doing my ffdshow 5.1 AAC fix)

    No need to instal HD pack, SAF will do same work if you "unlock" it. (SAF only instal PDVD9 decoder, this only one is requaired)
    I cannot fix MPA decoder, if you founded an bug, report it to MPC-HC forum. MPC-HC team can fix it but must be reported and must be reproducable (i have only analog stereo speakers, so i cant reproduce it).

    I was thinking of including some ATI registry tweeks in to SAF, but there are to many variables (GPU series, OS versions, 32bit. VS 64bit OS, drivers version, ... and i i have only small experience with it.)

    By some reason, MPA sometime didnt connect to TS reader and didnt decode AAC, no idea why, that is why there is Monogram AAC decoder. This happend for example on "not working.ts" file i posted here.

    Hi hoborg

    File = Dragons.Forever.1987.ENGSUB.DivX.avi
    Video = DivX 6 576x336 23.98fps 966Kbps (According to pin info in MPC-HC)

    Plays with black screen in mediaportal, audio fine.

    Plays fine in MPC-HC
    MPC-HC Graph = Dragons Forever.mkv -> MPC Video Dec -> Video Renderer

    Tried renaming to Dragons.Forever.1987.ENGSUB.DivX.mkv, still plays with black screen in MP
    MP Graph = Dragons Forever.mkv -> Haali -> Xvid MPEG4 Decoder -> VMR9

    I am using latest SAF + MP 1.1 Alpha + Latest SVN
    I installed using the SAF xvid option for higher quality, maybe the xvid decoder is not as robust as the mpcvideo decoder for xvid mpeg4?

    Do you want sample file?

    EDIT: Uninstalled SAF, Reinstalled SAF using MPC-HC Filter instead of Xvid filter, video now plays fine, new graph uses mpc filter instead of xvid filter.

    Ranaming AVI to MKV is not good idea. If you want to fix AVI, mux it to MKV in MKV merge. This will fix possible AVI problems.
    But you can post some AVI example, i can look on it.

    Hi Hoborg,

    Now and then I see you are referring to "SAF (unlocked)". I am a bit curious about what is unlocked? To what is this referring and/or what does it mean for us?
    Thanks !

    I sended to you PM.
     

    DAx_dk

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    I was thinking of including some ATI registry tweeks in to SAF, but there are to many variables (GPU series, OS versions, 32bit. VS 64bit OS, drivers version, ... and i i have only small experience with it.)

    Have a look at this then:
    ATI HD Registry Tweaks for HTPCs

    And check the links to AVS Forum further down the page. There, they give a detailed description on every option. I have used the registry tweaks all last year, but are unsure if all the options still are "valid", since the drivers have come a long way the past year (last year I had a HD2400 pro agp <-- crappy hardware:rolleyes:)

    DAx
     

    hoborg

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    Yes, i know this page. Simply i think it is easy to use "complete" solution insted of integrate new one in to SAF

    The easist possible solution can be add this sctipt file in to SAF.
    If SAF detect ATI card, then it can ask user if he want to run it.
    I will think about it
     

    larry_S

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    After the installation of SAF i can't play any movie from the german Maxdome.
    Maxdome is using WMV-Files with DRM.
    When i deactivate the WMV 1/2/3 function from the MPC codec i can't play any WMV-Movie.
    After removing SAF i can watch the movies from Maxdome again.

    Is there a possibility to deactivate the WMV Support in SAF. I think i have to use the original Windows WMV-Codec.

    Larry
     

    hoborg

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    After the installation of SAF i can't play any movie from the german Maxdome.
    Maxdome is using WMV-Files with DRM.
    When i deactivate the WMV 1/2/3 function from the MPC codec i can't play any WMV-Movie.
    After removing SAF i can watch the movies from Maxdome again.

    Is there a possibility to deactivate the WMV Support in SAF. I think i have to use the original Windows WMV-Codec.

    Larry

    Run CMD as administrator (no need on XP) and write:

    regsvr32.exe wmvdecod.dll

    This will re-enable MS DMO decoder - but you will loose DXVA for WMV format.
     

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