SAF v4.00 ''stable'' (StandAlone Filters) - DXVA ready (H.264 and VC-1). (6 Viewers)

Should i integrate FFDshow in to SAF?

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kiwijunglist

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    Hoborg,

    I installed the testSAF.
    I searched for different files with different audio types. In red or green is the result. If it is green, I give the info from my receiver.

    [Fast & Furious 4.mkv]
    Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1280x544 23.98fps [Video]
    Audio: AAC 48000Hz 6ch 4608Kbps [Audio] >>> Error: 2CH 44100hz PCM!

    Note1: The two files with the error (in red) do work in saf400beta18.exe with the use of AC3Filter as postprocessing.

    IMHO -> I belive the first file probaly didnt wont work, because SAF uses Monogram AAC for AAC decoding, and monogram AAC doesn't handle 6ch AAC properly, i think that FFDShow should be used for 6ch AAC.

    QUESTION: Can someone tell me how to easilly create a small sample (of 5-10 seconds) from an original mkv/avi without re-encoding?

    To create a sample use mkvmerge (free), split the file into 2 pieces, you can choose the size of the firt piece = 10mb
    mkvtoolnix -- Matroska tools for Linux/Unix and Windows
    Latest Windows installer -> http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/win32/mkvtoolnix-unicode-2.9.8-setup.exe
     

    dir

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    Hi,

    Here's some feedback from a very frustrated user:

    1. I've been using SAF (I think beta 09) and just tried installing RC1. It asked me for permission to uninstall the existing SAF, but when it did this it simply stopped. I'd assume it would continue on with the installation once the uninstall finished.

    3. I re-ran SAF, and it's now telling me that i don't have the following installed:

    PowerDVD
    Adobe Flash Player (IE version)
    QuicTime MediaLooks QT Source direct show filter, or
    QuickTime Alternative.

    ARGH. The first post of this thread says that it's an "All In One" solution, yet the installation essentially fails because these other things aren't installed! Why not simply tell the user that they have to install them and provide links or something, or include all these? (Or remove the "All In One" claims!).


    4. If there's no need to install PowerDVD, why does the Hardware/Software check pop-up window tell me that Power DVD: Not Found"? I can only interpret this message to mean that I'm supposed to have it installed. Confused!

    5. "no need to install PowerDVD or any other kind of codecspacks" - Possibly technically true, but in fact you have to install at least 4 other programs before installing SAF, so this claim isn't really true although it might be technically accurate.

    6. Tried configuring MP to enable AC3Filter as per the screenshots in the 1st post. I don't have AC3Filter as a possible option - it doesn't appear anywhere. For some reason, AC3Filter doesn't appear to have installed this time. I'm on Vista SP2 and I can't find where in Control Panel I can even check if it's there. I'll try deinstalling/reinstalling SAF again as AC3Filter is clearly part of the package according to the screenshots on the 1st post.
     

    dir

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    Thanks, will check in a few minutes

    I can't believe how confused I am here. I've been playing with these things for YEARS and consider myself in the top 5% of techie users.

    From what I can tell, the AC3Filter bits have been removed from the latest RC1 release. It's not mentioned in the initial pop-up when installing SAF4.00RC1, and the pictures in the first post of this thread are all outdated. This has led to me spending the last 2 hours trying to get things working that clearly won't work.

    The 1st post mentions that AC3 passthrough will only work when it's enabled during SAF installation - but there's no option to do this and no explanation as to where in the setup you're supposed to do this. The 1st post also says not to ask the author any questions about DTS etc. because he doesn't use them - so what am I supposed to do? SAF clearly understands AC3 passthrough for DTS etc. as of beta14 yet there's no explanation how to enable this and a warning not to ask about it. The screenshots are all wrong. Uninstalling teh app causes all sorts of other things to be uninstalled. And the link to the QuickTime stuff sends you to a commercial site that demands that you register and give your email, then gives you a 'trial' version. And if you try using the QT-Lite that's mentioned here a few posts back, it tells you to uninstall QT Alternative first. But even after you install this, SAF doesn't see it installed. Another dead end.

    Totally confused. So much for a "All In One" package.

    I used to read this thread to keep up with things, but it's 300 pages long now. I've used the "Search This Thread" tool extensively. I don't get much out of that, so I'm going to read the last 50 pages to see if most of the problems are answered there. That'll take me another hour or so.

    Is this really what's expected of users - to read every post across 300 pages to find answers? Really, it would be so much greater if someone completely redesigned the 1st post so that it gives simple instructions, unpolluted by incredibly technical side-matters and populated with a million details.
     

    tourettes

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    I can't believe how confused I am here. I've been playing with these things for YEARS and consider myself in the top 5% of techie users.

    That top 5% of users aren't using codec packs (SAF is just a codec pack, nothing more :)).
     

    tomhai

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    But then you shoud be able to select between:

    1. AC3/DTS passthrough and reencode TrueHD Audio and friends to AC3/DTS
    2. Passthrough all

    Because i guess most of the people have a receiver not being able to work with the new BluRay/HD DVD audiostreams.

    That is why i prefer to output most standard output - DTS and AC3 48khz.
    I found in ffdshow registry options to Passthrough DTSHD, EAC3, and TRUEHD but they are currently off (maybe later i will add this option as on/off to start menu)
    First of all i wanted to found if FFDshow is capable to Passthrough correctly, becouse some users here tells it is not. Thats is why i created this test version.

    I have a basic question on this DTS-HD and TrueHD audio stuff.
    These types of audio streams are used in m2ts containers of BluRay discs. Am I right that the Haali media splitter is not able to handle this? For me this meams that I can not play BluRay discs withe these audio streams with the internal player of MP. But the Gabest media splitter can handle these streams very well (e.g. in media player classic application).
    So with Gabest media splitter installed Media Portal should be able to play all BluRay discs with the internal media player, right?
    Unfortunately Gabest splitter is not part of the SAF package.
     

    gilberti69

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    First off, despite what might be said, IMHO there is no such thing as an "all in one" solution, the closest I found is 'Sharks codec pack' but I still wasn't happy. Also try to remember the people making these packs, plugins or whatever, do so in thier spare time, so complaining isn't going to get you far.

    Anyway, for those having problems I've just rebuilt my HTPC and from a FRESH install of XP with MP & VNC (to help the WAG factor).
    First I took an image of the partition so I could experiment and roll back when things went wrong.

    I then used this: [link removed!] as I have quite a few HD movies.
    I then followed the instructions on the first post of this thread.
    To get SPDIF to pass 5.1 i followed the following guide: https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/...ow-audio-ac3-filter-settings-5-1-spdif-70814/

    you have to be prepared to fly by the seat of your pants a bit and do your own thinking, but hey, isn't that the fun part?

    Yes I still have a few odd videos with no sound but they're mainly music vids so no biggie. I won't be tweaking it much as i just received
    the new mobo for it and my router got fried in a power-out so i have to get that fixed before the missus kills me...

    Keep up the good work everybody, we will achieve perfection!
     

    hulkhaugen

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    dir

    PM doesn't work :(

    i know it's confusing, but rc1 came after beta12, and then beta18 is the latest. He wasn't satisfied with rc so he went back to beta. i don't know what 11. září is, but i know that 30. září is later :p

    maybe i did a bad job when i read your post, anyway, maybe you're using the wrong folder? in x64 systems, you should use SysWOW64 instead of System32. Hope it helps, good luck ;)
     

    CHli

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    I can't believe how confused I am here. I've been playing with these things for YEARS and consider myself in the top 5% of techie users.

    That top 5% of users aren't using codec packs (SAF is just a codec pack, nothing more :)).

    Come on tourettes,

    SAF is not just another codecs pack :) I'm sure it matches quite well what most of us had installed on their PC before (spending hours and hours to get the perfect settings).
     

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