Codecs SAF v5.02 *final* (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder) (145 Viewers)

[Jocker_Boy]

Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

About the unistall procedure.
I uninstall SAF 5.00 for each new SVN and run the installer. And i have always to replace two files, i think they don't remove with the unistalation. Later i will try again in home and post the names of the files.

This don't happen with anyone else?

 

[hoborg]

Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

About the unistall procedure.
I uninstall SAF 5.00 for each new SVN and run the installer. And i have always to replace two files, i think they don't remove with the unistalation. Later i will try again in home and post the names of the files.

This don't happen with anyone else?

Not for me at all on 3 systems - 2 XP and one Win7 x64...

 

[alexirion]

Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

Hi!

Yesterday, I upgraded my sytem from a Geforce 9300 to a ATI 5570 and installed the latest SAF 5.

PDVD10 for TV decoding works quite fine, no frame drops and everything smooth.

But now, I have the problem that video/audio is massively out of sync (more than a second) while playing a bluray rip (m2ts). I'm using ffdshow for audio and video. Both sound and picture are playing fine, but they just don't belong together. At the starting of the movie, the picture stucks for a short while and I think, this time remains as difference from audio to video. Pausing and skipping does not help as a workaround.

What can I do? I never had this issue before with earlier versions of SAF and the Geforce 9300.

--Alex

 

[dedi]

Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

There seems also to be a messup with drivers (somebody surprised? ). I write here some notes, may someone can use that.

NVIDIA Card (GT 240), using 186.91 drivers. PDVD10.

With new drivers I got some problems (falling back to 16 bit, not switching refresh rate correct, incorrect hdtv desktop resize and more)

With 186.91 i just observed a strange thing: I had 720p with 50hz refreshrate, and EVR graph was like this: /\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Then i switched the "change the signal or HD format" to 720p50, and I got smooth playback with nice graph. You're reading correct. Both are theoretically the same. But it makes a difference.

With 186.91 I cant set p24, even with custom resolution. Even with 60 or 59(,9) i did not manage to get smooth playback.

 

[alexirion]

Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

Hello Hoborg,

I tracked my issue with audio out of sync down a bit further and installed all later versions. Since saf500svn100401 it is broken and the last working version is saf500svn100331.

I'm playing the bluray "Die Buddenbrooks", video format WVC1, audio DolbyTrueHD. The sound is outputted via analog output as stereo.

I enabled the OSD for showing the sound jitter value. Skipping the movie leads to a audio gap und the jitter value then rises up to -10.000ms ! So, it's really totally out of sync.

Then I tried different ffdshow versions directly from their svn. Since rev #3342 it's broken and #3336 is the last, that's working.

So it is one of this changes:


Revision 3342 - Directory Listing
Modified Wed Mar 31 10:06:06 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 2 days ago) by albain
Rev 3338 fix on bluray subs
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Revision 3341 - Directory Listing
Modified Tue Mar 30 22:38:27 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 2 days ago) by clsid2
Updated FFmpeg
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Revision 3340 - Directory Listing
Modified Tue Mar 30 22:29:44 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 2 days ago) by clsid2
Updated FFmpeg
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Revision 3339 - Directory Listing
Modified Tue Mar 30 21:31:55 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 2 days ago) by clsid2
Updated blacklist
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Revision 3338 - Directory Listing
Modified Tue Mar 30 17:41:48 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 3 days ago) by albain
Bluray subtitles : support for mutliple windows inside the same presentation segment. Thanks to supread author.
HD audio : better management of audio stream switching (may not fix all the issues)
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Revision 3337 - Directory Listing
Modified Mon Mar 29 15:44:33 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 4 days ago) by clsid2
Updated FFmpeg

Could it be, that it is "3338, HD audio : better management of audio stream switching (may not fix all the issues)" - just guessing. ;-) ?

Can anyone reproduce the issue??

--Alex

 

[JSorrentino]

Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

Hello Hoborg,

I tracked my issue with audio out of sync down a bit further and installed all later versions. Since saf500svn100401 it is broken and the last working version is saf500svn100331.

I'm playing the bluray "Die Buddenbrooks", video format WVC1, audio DolbyTrueHD. The sound is outputted via analog output as stereo.

I enabled the OSD for showing the sound jitter value. Skipping the movie leads to a audio gap und the jitter value then rises up to -10.000ms ! So, it's really totally out of sync.

Then I tried different ffdshow versions directly from their svn. Since rev #3342 it's broken and #3336 is the last, that's working.

So it is one of this changes:


Revision 3342 - Directory Listing
Modified Wed Mar 31 10:06:06 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 2 days ago) by albain
Rev 3338 fix on bluray subs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Revision 3341 - Directory Listing
Modified Tue Mar 30 22:38:27 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 2 days ago) by clsid2
Updated FFmpeg
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Revision 3340 - Directory Listing
Modified Tue Mar 30 22:29:44 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 2 days ago) by clsid2
Updated FFmpeg
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Revision 3339 - Directory Listing
Modified Tue Mar 30 21:31:55 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 2 days ago) by clsid2
Updated blacklist
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Revision 3338 - Directory Listing
Modified Tue Mar 30 17:41:48 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 3 days ago) by albain
Bluray subtitles : support for mutliple windows inside the same presentation segment. Thanks to supread author.
HD audio : better management of audio stream switching (may not fix all the issues)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Revision 3337 - Directory Listing
Modified Mon Mar 29 15:44:33 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 4 days ago) by clsid2
Updated FFmpeg

Could it be, that it is "3338, HD audio : better management of audio stream switching (may not fix all the issues)" - just guessing. ;-) ?

Can anyone reproduce the issue??

--Alex

Alex, if you are using SPD/IF passthrough and have ffdshow added to post proccessing, remove it from post processing and try to play it again. This is just a blind guess at a quick glance, but i know it sucks when you want to watch something on a friday night and nobody is home to help. I had to check something for work and religiously check the MePo forums when I am online.

Good Luck, hope this help until Hoborg is available.

PS. I'm sure he's going to ask for logs (if he hasn't already), as well as if it plays in graphstudio.

JS

 

[alexirion]

Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

Hi!

Thanks for replying JS.

I'm currently not using any passthrough. Later it will go through HDMI, maybe then the situation is different. In media portal I don't have anything added to post processing and in ffdshow dxva I switched Postprocessing from "Surface Overlay" to "Disabled", but the situation is the same. The same problem occurs in MPC-HC with this decoder pack. If I use MPC-HCs own audio decoder and the ffdshow video decoder from SAF it also works in media portal, so the issue is really sound decoder related.

I attached some logs. I started the movie from beginning and sound was ok, then I made a skip step forward 1 minute and then I have a huge sound jitter.

The problem does also show in Graphedit. If I start from the beginning, everything is fine - If I make a skip forward audio jitter was going up to -15000 ms.

Regards,
--Alex

 

[hoborg]

Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

Hello Hoborg,

I tracked my issue with audio out of sync down a bit further and installed all later versions. Since saf500svn100401 it is broken and the last working version is saf500svn100331.

I'm playing the bluray "Die Buddenbrooks", video format WVC1, audio DolbyTrueHD. The sound is outputted via analog output as stereo.

I enabled the OSD for showing the sound jitter value. Skipping the movie leads to a audio gap und the jitter value then rises up to -10.000ms ! So, it's really totally out of sync.

Then I tried different ffdshow versions directly from their svn. Since rev #3342 it's broken and #3336 is the last, that's working.

So it is one of this changes:


Revision 3342 - Directory Listing
Modified Wed Mar 31 10:06:06 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 2 days ago) by albain
Rev 3338 fix on bluray subs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Revision 3341 - Directory Listing
Modified Tue Mar 30 22:38:27 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 2 days ago) by clsid2
Updated FFmpeg
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Revision 3340 - Directory Listing
Modified Tue Mar 30 22:29:44 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 2 days ago) by clsid2
Updated FFmpeg
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Revision 3339 - Directory Listing
Modified Tue Mar 30 21:31:55 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 2 days ago) by clsid2
Updated blacklist
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Revision 3338 - Directory Listing
Modified Tue Mar 30 17:41:48 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 3 days ago) by albain
Bluray subtitles : support for mutliple windows inside the same presentation segment. Thanks to supread author.
HD audio : better management of audio stream switching (may not fix all the issues)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Revision 3337 - Directory Listing
Modified Mon Mar 29 15:44:33 2010 UTC (5 weeks, 4 days ago) by clsid2
Updated FFmpeg

Could it be, that it is "3338, HD audio : better management of audio stream switching (may not fix all the issues)" - just guessing. ;-) ?

Can anyone reproduce the issue??

--Alex

Can you please report this directly to FFDshow team?
BTW, did you tryed remux your video in to MKV?

 

[Lowietje]

Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

Hi Hoborg,

I'm going crazy trying to figure out how to disable MS DMO.
i've been searching the internet but it al leads to dead ends .....

Any way you can tell me for an alternative way to disable the MS DMO

System specs win 7 64.
using latest saf 5. 200507.
Using your suplied disable tool i get the attached window

TIA

Louis

 

[BigDoom]

Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

if i'm right the message doesn't matter. it's is disabled when you see it