scrambled channel fail (1 Viewer)

lar282

Portal Pro
July 11, 2004
414
2
Hi
Sometimes my twinhan card fails to decode a scrambled channel and I was wondering what parameter I should try to increase first to see if that helps. The channel always comes ok when switching back and forward. But worse is when tve3 is recording and it happens, then the size of file is 0Mb and the recording totally fails. It happens most of the time when the tve3 is recording and nobody is whatching tv. When watching tv it normally works but maybe it fails 1 out of 50 times. So maybe there is a difference how tve3 is recording compared to when wtaching tv?
Do the tve3 use the settings below at all or is it just when whatching tv not recording?
is it
Tune
PAt
CAT
PMT
SDt
or any else?

please help



the log looks like this when it fails


2007-07-05 20:58:06 B subch:0 RunGraph: already running
2007-07-05 20:58:06 B subch:0 SetupPmtGrabber:pid 41A sid:41A
2007-07-05 20:58:06 B subch:0 set pmt grabber pmt:41A sid:41A
2007-07-05 20:58:06 B subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-07-05 20:58:06 B subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-07-05 20:58:07 B subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-07-05 20:58:07 B subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-07-05 20:58:07 B subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-07-05 20:58:07 B subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-07-05 20:58:07 B subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-07-05 20:58:07 D subch:0 OnPMTReceived() True
2007-07-05 20:58:07 D subch:0 SendPmt:41A 41A FFFFFFFF 2
2007-07-05 20:58:07 B subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-07-05 20:58:07 D Decode pmt
2007-07-05 20:58:07 D descr2 pid:423 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 35 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 5 8
2007-07-05 20:58:07 D descr2 pid:423 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 61 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 32 8
2007-07-05 20:58:07 D descr2 pid:422 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 35 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 5 8
2007-07-05 20:58:07 D descr2 pid:422 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 61 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 32 8
2007-07-05 20:58:07 B subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-07-05 20:58:07 D subch:0 SendPMT version:2 len:109 1050
2007-07-05 20:58:07 D Decode pmt
2007-07-05 20:58:07 D descr2 pid:423 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 35 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 5 8
2007-07-05 20:58:07 D descr2 pid:423 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 61 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 32 8
2007-07-05 20:58:07 D descr2 pid:422 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 35 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 5 8
2007-07-05 20:58:07 D descr2 pid:422 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 61 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 32 8
2007-07-05 20:58:07 D Twinhan: send PMT cam:Default len:86 video:0x423 audio:0x422
2007-07-05 20:58:07 D capmt:3 4 1A C5 0 0 2 E4 23 0 23 1 9 F 5 0 E0 35 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 5 8 9 F 5 0 E0 61 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 32 8 3 E4 22 0 23 1 9 F 5 0 E0 35 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 5 8 9 F 5 0 E0 61 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 32 8
2007-07-05 20:58:07 D Twinhan: cam failed 0x8007001F


regards

Lasse
 

pmcguire

Portal Pro
November 25, 2006
213
0
53
Home Country
Finland Finland
Lasse I guess you are in Finland?
I have been having problems like this almost everytime I retry the new TV engine. Have never found out what might be causing it, I can flick through some other channels and then the scrambled ones will work again.

Though if you are not home and unable to do this it's a PIA.

I have the Technotrend S2-3200 with 5.0.0.2 Vista 32bit drivers. CAM is the Irdeto / Conax combi model.

TVe2 doesn't have any decoding problems with scrambled channels. :confused:
 

lar282

Portal Pro
July 11, 2004
414
2
I am in Sweden.
I can always watch channels. It only happens when the service is recording.heres another log.

2007-07-30 11:19:31 B Decode pmt
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B descr2 pid:423 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 35 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 5 8
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B descr2 pid:423 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 61 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 32 8
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B descr2 pid:422 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 35 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 5 8
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B descr2 pid:422 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 61 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 32 8
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B Twinhan: send PMT cam:Default len:86 video:0x423 audio:0x422
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B capmt:3 4 1A C5 0 0 2 E4 23 0 23 1 9 F 5 0 E0 35 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 5 8 9 F 5 0 E0 61 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 32 8 3 E4 22 0 23 1 9 F 5 0 E0 35 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 5 8 9 F 5 0 E0 61 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 32 8
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B Twinhan: cam failed 0x8007001F
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B subch:0 cam flags:True
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B subch:0 SetMpegPidMapping
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B subch:0 pid:423 pcr
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B subch:0 pid:41A pmt
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B subch:0 pid:423 video type:MPEG-2
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B subch:0 map pid:423 video type:MPEG-2
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B subch:0 pid:422 audio lang: type:MPEG-2
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B subch:0 map pid:422 audio lang: type:MPEG-2
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B subch:0 pid:420 teletext type:6
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B subch:0 map pid:420 teletext type:6
2007-07-30 11:19:31 8 subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-07-30 11:19:31 B subch:0 stop tif
2007-07-30 11:19:31 8 dvbt: tune: Graph running. Returning TvLibrary.Implementations.DVB.TvDvbChannel
2007-07-30 11:19:31 8 card: tuned user:scheduler7 subchannel:0
2007-07-30 11:19:31 8 user:scheduler7 add
2007-07-30 11:19:31 8 card: Tuner locked:False signal strength:0 signal quality:0
2007-07-30 11:19:31 6 Scheduler : record to D:\recorded_tv\Kanal 5 - America's Funniest Home Videos- 2007-07-30-11_15.mpg
2007-07-30 11:19:31 8 card: StartRecording 1 D:\recorded_tv\Kanal 5 - America's Funniest Home Videos- 2007-07-30-11_15.ts
2007-07-30 11:19:31 8 subch:0 StartRecord(D:\recorded_tv\Kanal 5 - America's Funniest Home Videos- 2007-07-30-11_15.ts)
2007-07-30 11:19:31 8 subch:0 StartRecording...


It wierd how the signal is ZERO
2007-07-30 11:19:31 8 card: Tuner locked:False signal strength:0 signal quality:0

I guess the devs could fix it by trying to again if the signal is zero


//Lasse
 

GagReflex

Portal Pro
October 10, 2006
101
3
Melbourne
Home Country
I get this too... Sometimes it can take 20-30 attempts to get a scrambled channel to work. After the first scrambled channel is displayed any other scrambled channels will normally then display without issue..

Recording is a nightmare.. ;)

This seems to be an issue with the Twinhan card only with Media Portal,, What card is a good alternative??
 

pmcguire

Portal Pro
November 25, 2006
213
0
53
Home Country
Finland Finland
ok 20-30 atempts is a bit extreme, I usually need about 4-5 attempts.
I have a Technotrend S2-3200
 

snorre

Portal Member
April 23, 2004
44
1
Just wanted to say that I am also experiencing these problems. I'm on DVB-T (FireDTV) in Sweden. Randomly I can use the scrambled channels, but not often.

A log of a failure is attached. Hints please?
 

lar282

Portal Pro
July 11, 2004
414
2
I got another log if the devs need it.
THIS line is the nasty one.....
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C Twinhan: cam failed 0x8007001F

Could it be that the service do not wait in the same matter as the MP client does? Noticed from a mp log that:
2007-08-06 08:40:23 D card: scrambled, sleep 100
2007-08-06 08:40:24 D card: scrambled, sleep 100
2007-08-06 08:40:24 D card: scrambled, sleep 100
2007-08-06 08:40:24 D card: scrambled, sleep 100
2007-08-06 08:40:24 D card: scrambled, sleep 100
2007-08-06 08:40:24 D card: return not scrambled

Just a thought!


2007-08-05 20:57:08 A Scheduler : time to record TvDatabase.Channel 2007-08-05 20:57:08-2007-08-05 21:55:00 3 lbs
2007-08-05 20:57:08 A Controller: find free card for channel Kanal 5
2007-08-05 20:57:08 A Controller: got 1 tuning details for Kanal 5
2007-08-05 20:57:08 A Controller: channel #1 DVBT:tv:Kanal 5 Ltd Kanal 5 Freq:634000 ONID:8945 TSID:1110 SID:1050 PMT:41A FTA:False LCN:10000 BandWidth:8
2007-08-05 20:57:09 A Controller: card:1 type:DvbT is available priority:1 #users:0 same transponder:False
2007-08-05 20:57:09 A Controller: found 1 available
2007-08-05 20:57:09 A Scheduler : record on free card:1 priority:1
2007-08-05 20:57:09 A Scheduler : record, first tune to channel
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 card:Tune 1 to Kanal 5
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 card:user:scheduler4:1:-1 tune DVBT:tv:Kanal 5 Ltd Kanal 5 Freq:634000 ONID:8945 TSID:1110 SID:1050 PMT:41A FTA:False LCN:10000 BandWidth:8
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvbt: Tune:DVBT:tv:Kanal 5 Ltd Kanal 5 Freq:634000 ONID:8945 TSID:1110 SID:1050 PMT:41A FTA:False LCN:10000 BandWidth:8
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvbt: tune: Assigning oldChannel
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvbt: tune: Current channel is null
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvbt: tune: Building graph
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 BuildGraph
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvb:AddNetworkProviderFilter
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvb:Add Generic Network Provider
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 CreateTuningSpace()
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 Found tuningspace Cable
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 Found tuningspace Antenna
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 Found tuningspace ATSC
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 Found tuningspace Digital Cable
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 Found tuningspace AuxIn1
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 Found tuningspace FM Radio
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 Found tuningspace DVB-T
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 Found tuningspace {adb10da8-5286-4318-9ccb-cbedc854f0dc}
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 Found tuningspace Mediaportal DVB-T
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 Found tuningspace MediaPortal DVB-T
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 Found tuningspace DVBT TuningSpace
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 Found correct tuningspace DVBT TuningSpace
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvb:Add MPEG2 Demultiplexer filter
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvb:add Inf Tee filter
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvb:AddAndConnectBDABoardFilters
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvb: find bda tuner
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvb: -DTV-DVBT 878 Digital Tuner Filter
2007-08-05 20:57:09 7 TV service PowerEventThread 537
2007-08-05 20:57:09 7 TV service PowerEventThread 537
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvb: OK
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvb:find bda receiver
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvb: -DTV-DVB 878 Virtual BDA Receiver
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvb: -DTV-DVBT 878 Digital Capture Filter
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvb: WinTv CI module not detected. Render [capture]->[inftee]
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvb:OK
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvb: Render [inftee]->[demux]
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvb: add Mediaportal TsWriter filter
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 dvb: Render [InfTee]->[TsWriter]
2007-08-05 20:57:09 5 Check for KNC
2007-08-05 20:57:10 5 Check for Digital Everywhere
2007-08-05 20:57:10 5 Check for Twinhan
2007-08-05 20:57:10 5 Twinhan: check for twinhan driver
2007-08-05 20:57:10 5 twinhan card detected
2007-08-05 20:57:10 5 twinhan:CI State:1 MMI State:0
2007-08-05 20:57:10 5 twinhan: CAM inserted
2007-08-05 20:57:10 5 twinhan:CI State:1 MMI State:0
2007-08-05 20:57:10 5 Cam detected:True
2007-08-05 20:57:10 5 Twinhan card detected
2007-08-05 20:57:10 5 dvb:AddTransportStreamFiltersToGraph
2007-08-05 20:57:10 5 add BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter filter
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 pinTif:name:IB Input [3/1] Direction:Input Connected:False
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 Connect tif and mpeg2 sections and tables
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvb:try tif:name:1 [4/1] Direction:Output Connected:False
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 tif connected
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvb: GetTunerSignalStatistics()
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvbt: tune: Getting default locator
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvbt: tune: Putting bandwidth 8
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvbt: tune: put_ONID 8945
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvbt: tune: put_SID 1050
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvbt: tune: put_TSID 1110
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvbt: tune: Carrier frequency 634000
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvbt: tune: put_Locator System.__ComObject
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvbt: tune: Submitting tune request: SubId -1, channel DVBT:tv:Kanal 5 Ltd Kanal 5 Freq:634000 ONID:8945 TSID:1110 SID:1050 PMT:41A FTA:False LCN:10000 BandWidth:8
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvbt: tune: Submitting tune request: System.__ComObject
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvb:confused:ubmiting tunerequest Channel:Kanal 5 subChannel:-1
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvb:Getting new subchannel
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvb:GetNewSubChannel:0 #0
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvb:confused:ubmit tunerequest size:1 new:0
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 subch:0 OnBeforeTune
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 subch:0 OnAfterTune
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvbt: tune: Running graph for channel TvLibrary.Implementations.DVB.TvDvbChannel
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvbt: tune: SubChannel 0
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 subch:0 OnGraphStart
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 subch0:RunGraph
2007-08-05 20:57:11 5 dvb:rungraph
2007-08-05 20:57:11 7 TV service PowerEventThread 537
2007-08-05 20:57:11 7 TV service PowerEventThread 537
2007-08-05 20:57:12 5 subch:0 OnGraphStart
2007-08-05 20:57:12 5 subch:0 RunGraph: already running
2007-08-05 20:57:12 5 subch:0 SetupPmtGrabber:pid 41A sid:41A
2007-08-05 20:57:12 5 subch:0 set pmt grabber pmt:41A sid:41A
2007-08-05 20:57:12 5 subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-08-05 20:57:12 5 subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-08-05 20:57:12 5 subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-08-05 20:57:12 5 subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-08-05 20:57:12 5 subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-08-05 20:57:13 5 subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-08-05 20:57:13 5 subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C subch:0 OnPMTReceived() True
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C subch:0 SendPmt:41A 41A FFFFFFFF 2
2007-08-05 20:57:13 5 subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C Decode pmt
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C descr2 pid:423 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 35 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 5 8
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C descr2 pid:423 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 61 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 32 8
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C descr2 pid:422 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 35 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 5 8
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C descr2 pid:422 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 61 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 32 8
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C subch:0 SendPMT version:2 len:109 1050
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C Decode pmt
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C descr2 pid:423 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 35 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 5 8
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C descr2 pid:423 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 61 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 32 8
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C descr2 pid:422 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 35 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 5 8
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C descr2 pid:422 len:11 9 f 5 0 e0 61 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 32 8
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C Twinhan: send PMT cam:Default len:86 video:0x423 audio:0x422
2007-08-05 20:57:13 5 subch:0 wait for pmt 41A
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C capmt:3 4 1A C5 0 0 2 E4 23 0 23 1 9 F 5 0 E0 35 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 5 8 9 F 5 0 E0 61 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 32 8 3 E4 22 0 23 1 9 F 5 0 E0 35 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 5 8 9 F 5 0 E0 61 10 1 1 13 1 20 14 3 2 32 8
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C Twinhan: cam failed 0x8007001F
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C subch:0 cam flags:True
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C subch:0 SetMpegPidMapping
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C subch:0 pid:423 pcr
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C subch:0 pid:41A pmt
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C subch:0 pid:423 video type:MPEG-2
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C subch:0 map pid:423 video type:MPEG-2
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C subch:0 pid:422 audio lang: type:MPEG-2
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C subch:0 map pid:422 audio lang: type:MPEG-2
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C subch:0 pid:420 teletext type:6
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C subch:0 map pid:420 teletext type:6
2007-08-05 20:57:13 C subch:0 stop tif
2007-08-05 20:57:13 5 dvbt: tune: Graph running. Returning TvLibrary.Implementations.DVB.TvDvbChannel
2007-08-05 20:57:13 5 card: tuned user:scheduler4 subchannel:0
2007-08-05 20:57:13 5 user:scheduler4 add
2007-08-05 20:57:13 5 card: Tuner locked:False signal strength:0 signal quality:0
2007-08-05 20:57:13 A Scheduler : record to D:\recorded_tv\Kanal 5-3 lbs-2007-08-05-21_00.mpg
2007-08-05 20:57:13 5 card: StartRecording 1 D:\recorded_tv\Kanal 5-3 lbs-2007-08-05-21_00.mpg
2007-08-05 20:57:13 5 subch:0 StartRecord(D:\recorded_tv\Kanal 5-3 lbs-2007-08-05-21_00.mpg)
2007-08-05 20:57:13 5 subch:0 StartRecording...
2007-08-05 20:57:13 5 subch:0 set record pid:423 video type:MPEG-2
2007-08-05 20:57:13 5 subch:0 set record pid:422 audio lang: type:MPEG-2
2007-08-05 20:57:13 5 subch:0 record program stream mode
2007-08-05 20:57:13 A recList:count:1 add scheduleid:4 card:DTV-DVBT 878 Digital Tuner Filter
2007-08-05 21:19:08 7 TV service PowerEventThread 537
2007-08-05 21:19:08 7 TV service PowerEventThread 537
2007-08-05 21:58:13 A Scheduler : stop record TvDatabase.Channel 2007-08-05 20:57:13-2007-08-05 21:55:00 3 lbs
2007-08-05 21:58:13 8 card: StopRecording 1
2007-08-05 21:58:13 8 card: StopRecording for card:1
2007-08-05 21:58:13 8 subch:0 StopRecord()
2007-08-05 21:58:13 8 card: remove user:scheduler4 sub:0
2007-08-05 21:58:13 8 user:scheduler4 remove
2007-08-05 21:58:13 8 card: free subchannel sub:0
2007-08-05 21:58:13 8 dvb:FreeSubChannel:1 #0
2007-08-05 21:58:13 8 subch:0 Decompose()
2007-08-05 21:58:13 8 dvb:FreeAllSubChannels:
2007-08-05 21:58:13 8 dvb:confused:topGraph
2007-08-05 21:58:13 8 dvb:FreeAllSubChannels:
2007-08-05 21:58:13 A ComSkipLauncher: Recording ended (D:\recorded_tv\Kanal 5-3 lbs-2007-08-05-21_00.mpg on Kanal 5), launching program (C:\Program Files\Comskip\run.bat "D:\recorded_tv\Kanal 5-3 lbs-2007-08-05-21_00.mpg" "Kanal 5") ...
2007-08-05 21:58:14 A Done with database update
2007-08-05 21:58:14 A ConflictManager: Updating conflicts list
 

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