Sumvision Cyclone Mini PC (4 Viewers)

[Lehmden]

Hi.

most actual PCs are also consuming upward of around 250 W to 300 W

In which decade do you live? An "average" PC consumes far less that 100W. My Core i5 PC has 15! HDD attached to it and needs around 40-60W average. Metered direct on the power plug so including lost in power supply and similar.
250W you only can reach with High power graphics cards, useless for everyone who did not play High-End 3D games...

 

[HTPCSourcer]

Guys,

Cool it.

most actual PCs are also consuming upward of around 250 W to 300 W

"Most actual PCs" consume ca. 25W - unless you run hardcore gaming machines, which would be overkill when looking at HTPC clients. Add a few W if the client is also housing TV cards and mass storage hard disks.

However, given the low power usage of this machine (12W), it's easier to simply leave it switched on and set MP to throttle down its display when idle.

The more of these client you want to run this way, the higher your electricity bill is going to be

You could save this by turning a light off

That's not the right thinking. Said 30 EUR (electricity is pretty expensive in Germany) is coming on top. Imagine many clients - all of a sudden you are paying 100 EUR more...

I think an actual pc must support these power states!

Let's agree that it should. Anyway, if S3 is not supported then the solution would obviously be to power it down when not in use.

 

[deadmonty]

Won't bother sharing any stuff I find again. Too many rude, arrogant people populate these forums.

 

[Lehmden]

Hi.
Yep, for a "client only" the S3 is not that important. Anyone should shut down those systems if not used... I'm using Raspberry Pi for average computer work like surfing and such. And even this 2 watts consuming system I shut down if not needed.

It's a completely different story if the system is Tv server too. Than a good working S3/S4 is a must.

 

[CyberSimian]

Won't bother sharing any stuff I find again. Too many rude, arrogant people populate these forums.

Please continue to contribute to the MP community.

When I read the posts this morning, it did not seem to me that they were unduly infelicitous. Opinions vary; that is quite normal. Also, bear in mind that many people in the MP community are not native English speakers, and so may not be aware of the nuances implicit in the different ways of expressing a point of view.

-- from CyberSimian in the UK

 

[mm1352000]

@Lehmden
Why did you disagree with @deadmonty 's latest post? Such a response does come across as very rude/aggressive, as do comments like

In which decade do you live?

@deadmonty
You're right that a lot of PCs have 250 - 300 W power supplies. However, they don't actually need/use all of that power most of the time. The rated power is not used because:

• there is over-design to enable component upgrades and/or connection of additional peripherals (future-proofing)
• there is over-design to handle peak power requirements (eg. HDDs spinning up - the motors can use ~5 times rated power etc.)
• PSUs aren't 100% efficient (ie. they can't convert 100% incoming AC power to DC for the PC components); they're more like 80-90% at peak efficiency
• many PSU designs operate most efficiently when working at between 50 and 80% load

 

[Helios61]

Hi @mm1352000

Why did you disagree with @deadmonty 's latest post? Such a response does come across as very rude/aggressive

I disagreed too, but it has nothing to do with rudeness and arrogance. It simple means, that i have a different opinion to the statement posted by deadmonty.
If anyone feels offended by my postings/disagrees, i am very sorry and i think, it only a big missunderstanding.
Best regards
Helios

 

[SpudR]

Off topic but rude??
It's hard to write feelings in a post - so I read all with kindness in mind

electricity is pretty expensive in Germany

It's expensive everywhere! lol <- meant to be funny
Miss a beer or two per month...

IMO suspend is only important for PCs - low power clients just use the internal MP stuff.

 

[spachti]

Cool down, guys.

Most of the people here are Germans, at least in this thread. Knowing from experience, German humor or soft sarcasm doesn't work when just translated into English. Believe me I know what I'm talking about, living in the states for 15 years and didn't miss ONE grease barrel to step in.
The last sentence is only understandable for Germans, LOL.

 

[HTPCSourcer]

I'll start reporting back here when I receive my 89 GBP Juston Mini PC...

living in the states for 15 years and didn't miss ONE grease barrel to step in.

Gotcha!


Although not living in the US, I do work for an American Company...