Terratec and MP no go? (1 Viewer)

[ZeropaidNL]

A new installation of windows xp solved the lost connection to the tv service error.

But im still having poor HD playback, normal channels are working fine.
When playing HD content the cpu usage is peaking at 100% so there is no HW acceleration.

The codec's i tried: divx h264, coreavc (actually bought it), divxa, ffdshow.. almost all the h264 codecs i could find.
Also tried a couple of codec packs without any noticable difference.

im running out of idea's, i would like to know about other terratec users and their experiences

As promised a log without mdapi enabled

 

[mm1352000]

Hi again

MDAPI is still enabled in all your tests in those logs.

mm

 

[ZeropaidNL]

Not installing mdapi wouldnt be a logic, then i wouldnt have any result at all.
I did use the unregister batch so maybe there are entries in the log but its disabled.

I would also like to note: why are there manufactors that are supplying there cards without a cam, how would it be possible to view anything wouthout the use of a softcam..
though i understand the policy, but softcams are mostly used in combination with mediaportal.

And i dont buy a hw cam, only because of MP not supporting softcams, so if the support ends here than thats also fine to me

 

[Vasilich]

why are there manufactors that are supplying there cards without a cam, how would it be possible to view anything wouthout the use of a softcam..

you probably won't believe me, but i use 2 LNBs with my DVB-S card, and happy watching FTA channels only, so no need of CAM of any sort at all...

concerning codecs:
afaik coreavc uses CUDA, and you have Radeon HD 6310 that has no CUDA.
for DXVA you need unlocked PDVD, FFDShow DXVA, or MPC-HC MPEG Decoder. And in settings you should explicitely enable DXVA support for h264 as it can be disabled by default.

 

[ZeropaidNL]

why are there manufactors that are supplying there cards without a cam, how would it be possible to view anything wouthout the use of a softcam..

you probably won't believe me, but i use 2 LNBs with my DVB-S card, and happy watching FTA channels only, so no need of CAM of any sort at all...

i totally believe you, but if in my case (dvbc)thats not an option, because that would give me only 2 channels (nederland 1 and zenderoverzicht)

about the codecs, coreavc is also able to handle ati cards maybe the version i chose not, i tried all the codecs.
now im installing 1.1.2, for better compatibilty with xp.

 

[mm1352000]

Hi again

Not installing mdapi wouldnt be a logic, then i wouldnt have any result at all.

Are you saying you don't have access to even a single free channel?

I did use the unregister batch so maybe there are entries in the log but its disabled.

The filters are being added to the graph, and that is why I can't eliminate it from the equation.

I would also like to note: why are there manufactors that are supplying there cards without a cam, how would it be possible to view anything wouthout the use of a softcam..

I think that your opinion is a little biased. Pay TV is not the only content out there. Maybe where you live that is true, but I have never used MDAPI - I watch Freeview NZ channels which are all free, and some are also HD.

though i understand the policy, but softcams are mostly used in combination with mediaportal.

Impossible to verify, but I *strongly* doubt it.

And i dont buy a hw cam, only because of MP not supporting softcams, so if the support ends here than thats also fine to me

As much as I'd like to help, I have to stick to our rules - sorry. I *really* do hope you manage to find the source of the problem, else you find some other software that suits your needs better.

All the best,
mm

 

[ZeropaidNL]

Yes i would have 2 channels wich arent HD, wich wont give me the poor playback so i think that the logs wouldnt show anything usefull because the problems are with HD channels only

again about the policy, supporting mdapi enabled users wouldnt automatically be supporting illegal activities.
those illegal activities are not being talked about so in that way its not illegal to support mdapi softcam users.
Its a discussion i wont win but its just my opinion about support

 

[Hullie]

Hi there,

I'm using a 3 dvb c cards i'm als in the netherlands, with ziggo as my provider.

I've got a terratec H5, terratec pci HD and a technisat cablestar hd.
I'm having the same problems.
Specs.
win 7 64 bit
I7 proc
3*2GB triple channel


So the specs of my tv server are ok.


after trying 4TRr for a couple of weeks, back to MP TV server.

did a lot of clean installs of 1.1.3 and 1.2b but the channel changing is slow, and wathcing tv on different pc's randomly freezes.
I'm using MP for a long time and i don't know sinds wich, version but the changing channels and freezing of the tv services suddenly came along.
I didn't had that problems more than a year ago(fortunately don't know wich version it occurd)
Thats one of the reason i switched to 4TR a couple of weeks ago.

I've read the MDAPi policy, which was posted : 2006-11-08, 10:32 , By a Frodo when there were mostly FTA channels.
Now it's 2011 and ziggo only has one one channel worth watching fta channel (nerderland 1)
The only reason that i want to use MDAPI is to store all the recorded programs to one hd and to be able to view them on any tv (which are pc's of course) in my house. Nothing illegal about that.
If you buy a car, you can drive 200 which is also illegal.

Back to the slow switching and freezing. There is no possibility to test and post logs if i can't use MDAPI.
So if the MDAPI policy won't be updated to 2011 standards, it would be a pitty.

Greetzzz

PS.

Sorry for all the frustration in my post!

 

[mm1352000]

Hi Hullie

I understand your frustration, believe me. I'm not going to enter a debate, but I challenge you to think about a few things...

I've read the MDAPi policy, which was posted : 2006-11-08, 10:32 , By a Frodo when there were mostly FTA channels.

That is true. The channel providers like Ziggo are using encryption and shifting towards standards like CI+ more and more these days. Their reasons for doing that are many and varied. Some of them might be:
- reduce/prevent content piracy
=> more money for them
=> more money for content producers
- enforce content restrictions from the content providers
=> more content allowed to be shown
=> more money for content producers
- force you to use their set top box
- enforce regional viewing constraints

The only reason that i want to use MDAPI is to store all the recorded programs to one hd and to be able to view them on any tv (which are pc's of course) in my house. Nothing illegal about that.

Maybe not illegal in The Netherlands but it is certainly illegal in other countries. Also, I'm almost certain that doing what you're doing is against Ziggo's terms and conditions in their contract. They expect you to pay to use/buy one of their set top boxes for each TV in your house. Using a cardserver and one subscription for multiple TVs is against their rules

If you buy a car, you can drive 200 which is also illegal.

True. In that case, you are taking the risks and you get punished if you are caught. In the case of supporting MDAPI, *we* would be the ones taking the risk and getting punished. Sorry, but I for one am not going to take that risk.

Back to the slow switching and freezing. There is no possibility to test and post logs if i can't use MDAPI.

I disagree. Why can't you buy TV card(s) with CI slot(s)? We provide support for many cards with those features - just see our wiki.

For us, the reasons for having the policy are just as relevant as when it was created. The fact that providers like Ziggo are going more towards restrictive encryption is sad. You have the power to complain and refuse to accept what Ziggo are doing. Otherwise the trend will just continue.

mm

 

[ZeropaidNL]

Hullie try the powerdvd 8 codec, it works for me.. MP runs stable now, after 3 weeks of hard trying.. and after basically getting no support because of a few mdapi entries in my log.


(make sure you install powerdvd 8 the higher versions have locked their codecs so its not vissible to MP)