TV Service stops (2 Viewers)

[Doser_86]

It is hard to explain the picture because my English writing is not very good. washed-out coulor is the closest i get. Thank you.

I created the logs when I was starting channels in MP. For example the one channel that comes and goes. Also some other problem channels.

 

[Doser_86]

This is Logs when seartching for two channels that I already have.

 

[mm1352000]

Hi again

So you are scanning 12015H from Thor 0.8W?
If so, the parameters that you're using are not correct. This is a DVB-S2 channel so you can't use modulation "not set" with the FloppyDTV - you must choose either 8 PSK or QPSK (depending on the transponder modulation). Please scan with the following parameters:

Frequency: 12015000 kHz (note: you can't use 12015, it must be 12015000)
Symbol rate: 30000 ksps
Polarisation: horizonatal
Modulation: 8 PSK
Inner FEC rate: 3/4
Pilot: on
Roll-off: 0.35

You also scanned 11260. Please use the following parameters:

Frequency: 11261000 kHz
Symbol rate: 24500 ksps
Polarisation: horizonatal
Modulation: not set
Inner FEC rate: 7/8
Pilot: not set
Roll-off: not set

If you don't find the channels after that then please report again.

Regarding the colour issue: check the RGB range settings for the codecs and video card. There is an example here of the setting to check in LAV video. I don't know if the same setting is available for Cyberlink.

mm

 

[Doser_86]

Allright. This helped finding the channels I allready have. I just don't understand hvere you get the rest of the parameters. There are still some channels I can't find. And several radio channels.
I don't meen to make a lot og work for you, but are you able to see in the logs I have already created hvy Hd channels take ages to start, if they even start. Most og the time i just get Green screen and a squeecing sound. Egen that starts it usually gwt like that on every channel.

 

[mm1352000]

Hi again

Allright. This helped finding the channels I allready have. I just don't understand hvere you get the rest of the parameters.

How do I get the parameters? I read them from the tuning detail files or from King Of Sat. Example for 12015H:

King Of Sat page is -->here<--.
The transponder details are: "Thor 5 12015.00 H C16 Europe DVB-S2 8PSK 30000 3/4" (ignore everything else)

From that you can get:
- the frequency = 12015, multiply it by 1000 => 12015000
- polarisation = horizontal; H = horizontal, V = vertical, L = circular left, R = circular right
- modulation: if it says "DVB-S2" then use the modulation as stated - either "8 PSK" or "QPSK"; if it says "DVB-S" then use "not set"
- symbol rate = 30000, enter it directly
- inner FEC rate = 3/4, enter it directly

Pilot and roll-off are trickier. For DVB-S (non-HD) transponders you should always use "not set". For DVB-S2 I check the tuning detail files in C:\ProgramData\Team MediaPortal\MediaPortal TV Server\TuningParameters\dvbs (note: that is a hidden folder so paste the pathe into the address bar in Windows explorer or enable viewing of hidden and system files and folders) which we get from fastsatfinder.com.

There are still some channels I can't find. And several radio channels.

Please check King Of Sat and tell me which transponders (frequencies) they are on.

I don't meen to make a lot og work for you, but are you able to see in the logs I have already created hvy Hd channels take ages to start, if they even start. Most og the time i just get Green screen and a squeecing sound. Egen that starts it usually gwt like that on every channel.

No I'm not able to see in the logs but it sounds like signal corruption, video driver or codec issues. Please ensure that you are using the legacy Firewire driver for a start (if you don't know what that means then please ask) and then provide new logs for only one channel that shows these problems.

mm

 

[Doser_86]

Does this help?

 

[Doser_86]

First of all, thank you so mutch fore advice about Legacy driver. I completely forgot about that. This sorted out a lot of problems!

I still have a problem with finding missing tv and radio channels.

This is what I do:

Finding the specs on Programmes listing - TelenorSBC
I put inn Freq, Pol, SR and FEC.
I don`t understand what the rest is.

For example when i seartch fore BBC World News or P4 (Radio station). MP tels me that it has uppdated a lot of channels, but no new ones.

Earlier when i did this it found and added new channels. I don`t understand why it will not do this now.

 

[mm1352000]

Hi again

First of all, thank you so mutch fore advice about Legacy driver. I completely forgot about that. This sorted out a lot of problems!

No problem.

I still have a problem with finding missing tv and radio channels.

This is what I do:

Finding the specs on Programmes listing - TelenorSBC
I put inn Freq, Pol, SR and FEC.
I don`t understand what the rest is.

Okay. Those other fields that you don't understand are also important. If you don't set them correctly then you may have problems, especially since you have a FloppyDTV. It is critical to at least choose the correct modulation value. I explained how to choose the correct value in my previous post. Telenor does not tell you whether the channels are DVB-S or DVB-S2 so you would need to check King Of Sat or some other website to see which modulation to use.

For example when i seartch fore BBC World News or P4 (Radio station). MP tels me that it has uppdated a lot of channels, but no new ones.

Earlier when i did this it found and added new channels. I don`t understand why it will not do this now.

Well if we take the example, it looks like the Telenor details are correct. You would do a manual scan with the following values:

Frequency: 11862000
Symbol rate: 28000
Polarisation: horizonatal
Modulation: not set
Inner FEC rate: 7/8
Pilot: not set
Roll-off: not set

If TV Server is telling you that it is updating channels rather than adding channels then it is becaue it thinks the channels are already present in your channel list. Have you tried to filter your TV Channel list by "BBC"? Have you got any "Unknown" channels in the list and have you checked that they are not the channels that you are looking for? Perhaps you could export your channels and I can check whether BBC World News is there. You can export in the import/export section of TV Server configuration. Just select everything and click "export now". It would also be helpful to have logs that show what happens when you try to scan for BBC World News and P4.

mm

 

[Doser_86]

I had tried anything exept chekking the unknown channels. Found every missing channel
Thank you so mutch for your help!

Now I am almost back to where i was.
But do you know why I am unnable to se the picture in prewiew inside TvService Setup? Codec issue?
And why Hd channels take a kirke while to start? Because og slow tv card maybe?

 

[mm1352000]

I had tried anything exept chekking the unknown channels. Found every missing channel
Thank you so mutch for your help!

Now I am almost back to where i was.

But do you know why I am unnable to se the picture in prewiew inside TvService Setup? Codec issue?

Yes, codec issue. If you want to get preview working then you need to ensure that the codec merits on your system are configured correctly so that TV Server chooses the correct codecs (preview does *not* use the codecs that you choose in MP configuration since TV Server and MP might be on different PCs). If you really want to get that working then try using Filmerit to set codec priorities.

And why Hd channels take a kirke while to start? Because og slow tv card maybe?

Sorry, you'll need to post logs so that I can analyse in details.

mm