User experience with AMD 780G and MediaPortal (30 Viewers)

kszabo

MP Donator
  • Premium Supporter
  • December 6, 2007
    796
    86
    Germany, Bayern
    Home Country
    Hungary Hungary
    So you didn't see any difference on 1080p / 720p movies?

    No, I didn´t. But remeber I have only 1 system so I could not make a comparison in realtime (switching CPU several times was not an option). And I never used any postprocessing. So I would say no difference at all for me.

    If your question is: should I upgrade my X2 with a HT3.0 capable CPU for better 1080p or 720p picture quality, I would say NO.

    And you could consider upgrading your onboard GFX with a HD4350/4550 instead of CPU-Upgrade. Less money (30-50€) and you have all your RAM (no shared vRAM) and all HD-options even with the X2. Less money, probably less power consumption (X2 needs less than a Phenom, onboard HD3200 deactivated, passively cooled HD4350).
     

    Justchill

    Portal Pro
    February 25, 2008
    247
    1
    Brugge
    Home Country
    Belgium Belgium
    So you didn't see any difference on 1080p / 720p movies?

    No, I didn´t. But remeber I have only 1 system so I could not make a comparison in realtime (switching CPU several times was not an option). And I never used any postprocessing. So I would say no difference at all for me.

    If your question is: should I upgrade my X2 with a HT3.0 capable CPU for better 1080p or 720p picture quality, I would say NO.

    And you could consider upgrading your onboard GFX with a HD4350/4550 instead of CPU-Upgrade. Less money (30-50€) and you have all your RAM (no shared vRAM) and all HD-options even with the X2. Less money, probably less power consumption (X2 needs less than a Phenom, onboard HD3200 deactivated, passively cooled HD4350).

    Would the HD4350 give a PQ improvement over the HD3200 for 720p / 1080p movies?
     

    Frantid

    Portal Pro
    October 11, 2008
    117
    12
    Home Country
    Iceland Iceland
    I have almost the same specs as kszabo, I was really happy with my phenom x3 and my gigabyte ma78gpm in all my testing with my widescreen monitor. Cool and quiet 2, with the phenom is really nice. Each core can have it's own speed and voltage regulated. My cpu never got over 40C in all playback, hd-dvd & blueray hardware acceleration worked with less than 15% cpu. However once I started integrating HD dvd & blueray playback into MP, I lost hardware acceleration in the integrated 3200 if MP was running in the background - pdvd 7, pdvd 8, or TMT doing the playback. This would be fine, but where my wife wants the htpc placed when hooked into the hd plazma does not have enough air flow to cool the case if the cpu is doing 40-50% utilization. So I went with an addon card, I wanted a 4550 passive, but couldn't get one. Tried out a 4670 and am very happy with it. I can have MP playing a video, pdvd 7 playing a blueray dvd with HA working in both playbacks. It does have a fan, but is actually quieter than running the phenom at 40-50% when HA doesn't work.
     

    comp666

    Portal Member
    December 22, 2008
    7
    0
    Hi, I recently purchased this motherboard and I just want to make sure that my setup will play 1080p x264 videos on mediaportal. From what I've read, if I don't need TV features, the optimal codec for HD playback would be the MPC-HC codec, is this correct? Is there any difference in cpu usage between the powerdvd, coreavc, arcsoft and ffdshow codecs when it comes to video playback? I'll only be playing .avi .mkv and .rmvb videos on MP, so will MPC + real alternative codec do the trick? sorry if these questions have already been answered, I tried my best searching through this thread its just really really big :(
     

    zicoz

    MP Donator
  • Premium Supporter
  • September 3, 2006
    896
    63
    Home Country
    Norway Norway
    MPC-HC, PowerDVD, Arcsoft and Avivo are all GPU-decoders, that is they get help from the GPU to decode the movies that supports it. I am not 100% sure but I belive that they use about the same about of the CPU when decoding.

    CoreAVC and FFDshow are CPU codecs that only uses the CPU when decoding, out of the two CoreAVC needs less HW, but it could also give a slightly poorer picture quality.
     

    ziphnor

    Retired Team Member
  • Premium Supporter
  • August 4, 2005
    755
    13
    Copenhagen
    Home Country
    Denmark Denmark
    Hi, I recently purchased this motherboard and I just want to make sure that my setup will play 1080p x264 videos on mediaportal. From what I've read, if I don't need TV features, the optimal codec for HD playback would be the MPC-HC codec, is this correct? Is there any difference in cpu usage between the powerdvd, coreavc, arcsoft and ffdshow codecs when it comes to video playback? I'll only be playing .avi .mkv and .rmvb videos on MP, so will MPC + real alternative codec do the trick? sorry if these questions have already been answered, I tried my best searching through this thread its just really really big :(

    I assume that by x264 videos i assume you mean videos encoded in h264 using the x264 encoder?

    You need to be aware that h264 video encoded using a profile higher than L4.1 cannot currently (AFAIK) be decoded in hardware by ATI/AMD video cards. However, I read here that nVidia has added profile L5.1 support now. Personally i got tired of all the hardware accel trouble and just started using software decoding (CoreAVC) :)
     

    kszabo

    MP Donator
  • Premium Supporter
  • December 6, 2007
    796
    86
    Germany, Bayern
    Home Country
    Hungary Hungary
    Ziphnor hit a good point:

    if you use DXVA (=GPU encoding AKA HW-Acceleration) it is the same which codec you use (it just passes compressed material to the GPU). No significant difference in picture Quality or CPU usage. BUT if your h.264 video file is not compressed properly (following the h264 L4.1 standard or what is it called) than DXVA will be deactivated and your chosen codec will work in "software mode". And then you will become big differences in picture quality and CPU-usage.

    That´s why you should choose a h246 codec that supports DXVA but delivers good results in software mode also. Like the Cyberlink PDVD codecs.

    If you watch HDTV and Bluray files as h264 only, your properly configured DXVA should work all the time (as in my case). They follow the h264 standards. If you watch ripped/downloaded/selfcompressed h264 Files, it can happen very quickly that you loose DXVA (especially using subtitles).

    with the X24850e CPU of Cpmp666 you can forget CoreAVC for 1080, it is simply not fast enough.
     

    Users who are viewing this thread

    Top Bottom