First line of TV subtitles not displaying at top (14 Viewers)

[RiverFilth]

Hi, I've been using MP1 for many years but am new to the forum.
When watching recorded TV shows with subtitles, normally they are displayed near the bottom of the screen, but sometimes they are displayed at the top (during opening credits) and if the subtitle text is longer than one line, the first line is not displayed and the 2nd line is at the top of screen.
Any ideas on how to fix this?
I've had this problem for years on different versions of MP1. I have older laptops (Vista & Win10) recording the TV shows and a newer laptop (Win11) for watching the recorded TV. I'm assuming it is more likely to be a display issue than a recording issue, but I don't know what controls the positioning of subtitles.
DVB Australian TV.

 

[doskabouter]

that is weird.

• is this also when using other software?
• is this also when watching live tv?
• do you happen to have a separate subtitle file from such a recording so i can analyze it?

 

[CyberSimian]

When watching recorded TV shows with subtitles, normally they are displayed near the bottom of the screen, but sometimes they are displayed at the top (during opening credits)

I use DVB-T in the UK, and although the subtitles usually display near the bottom of the screen, they do occasionally appear elsewhere. I think that this occurs when there is something important on screen that the subtitle authors don't want to obscure, or there is dialogue in quick succession so multiple subtitle lines appear simultaneously. So your subtitles appearing at a different location when the opening credits are on screen is consistent with this behaviour.

Unfortunately, I know nothing about how the subtitles are generated, so can offer no further information.

-- from CyberSimian in the UK

 

[doskabouter]

i read this was happening with recorded tv, and i was wondering if

• the broadcaster embeds the subtitles (can you turn them on or off in mediaportal)?
• the tvserver embeds the subtitles?
• are the subtitles in a separate file next to the recording?

 

[RiverFilth]

The subtitles are embedded in the TS video file, not a separate subtitle file.
I can turn them on and off in MP, and sometimes there is more than one type to choose from (eg. older teletext).
I tested a file in VLC and the subtitles displayed correctly when positioned at the top, so it seems to be a MP display issue.

 

[doskabouter]

i guess that ts-file is too big to be shared somewhere?

 

[RiverFilth]

What is the upload limit for this forum?
Last time I used a video editor was over 10 years ago - are there any free ones for Win11 that can trim TS files?

 

[framug]

Hello,
I don't know if this software exist in english and/or, if you can understand french.

Then, please, follow rectangles, with that, you can cut a part of video file.
OFC, choose a part with subtitles.

 

[RiverFilth]

Found the English version and will give it a go, thanks.
Just realised I've been using MP for around 30 years! I also remember using an extension to trim recordings, but that was back in the SD days and I don't think it was enhanced to handle HD.

 

[catavolt]

Just realised I've been using MP for around 30 years!

Well, maybe 20 years First release in 2006