Grey blacks with internal player + EVR (1 Viewer)

[HomeY]

Can someone check EVR.DLL for version number? Witch one is "working"?

I'm using This file which was posted by Kado on Doom9 forum in this thread

 

[Owlsroost]

1) The problem exists on both ATI cards and Nvidia Cards.
2) Vista's original evr.dll is the only fix to the problem

That tell's me that Microsoft changed how something worked and it isn't necessarily a bug. Since it happens with Nvidia and ATI it leaves me to believe that there isn't necessarily a video driver problem either.

I've just done the tests on my system (9500GT, 182.50 drivers, Vista SP2) and everything is OK in MP 1.0.2 (PDVD8 codecs) and MPC-HC rev 1043 (internal codecs), so I'm not convinced there's a general problem with nVidia cards. I'd never noticed any problem with SP1 either.

I checked the 'desktop' colour settings beforehand using LCD monitor test images to make sure that the black (and white) levels were correct - the nVidia desktop settings affect video as well as 'desktop' display, and 'application' control of the settings is disabled. The 'video' colour settings are set to the defaults.

Tony

P.S. for reference, the Vista SP2 'evr.dll' version is 6.0.6002.18005

 

[Dr Tone]

1) The problem exists on both ATI cards and Nvidia Cards.
2) Vista's original evr.dll is the only fix to the problem

That tell's me that Microsoft changed how something worked and it isn't necessarily a bug. Since it happens with Nvidia and ATI it leaves me to believe that there isn't necessarily a video driver problem either.

I've just done the tests on my system (9500GT, 182.50 drivers, Vista SP2) and everything is OK in MP 1.0.2 (PDVD8 codecs) and MPC-HC rev 1043 (internal codecs), so I'm not convinced there's a general problem with nVidia cards. I'd never noticed any problem with SP1 either.

I checked the 'desktop' colour settings beforehand using LCD monitor test images to make sure that the black (and white) levels were correct - the nVidia desktop settings affect video as well as 'desktop' display, and 'application' control of the settings is disabled. The 'video' colour settings are set to the defaults.

Tony

P.S. for reference, the Vista SP2 'evr.dll' version is 6.0.6002.18005

You've left out the most important information. How are you connected to your TV and is you graphics card seeing it as HDMI or DVI?

 

[Owlsroost]

It's in my system specs - DVI -> HDMI.

The TV is seen as a DVI device (I'm using the nVidia EDID override facility to force this, for other reasons). The nVidia control panel 'desktop' colour settings are adjusted to get the desktop black/white/greyscale/colours correct on the TV.

Tony

 

[Dr Tone]

It's in my system specs - DVI -> HDMI.

The TV is seen as a DVI device (I'm using the nVidia EDID override facility to force this, for other reasons). The nVidia control panel 'desktop' colour settings are adjusted to get the desktop black/white/greyscale/colours correct on the TV.

Tony

By forcing DVI are you not making it run RGB full range?

 

[Owlsroost]

By forcing DVI are you not making it run RGB full range?

Yes (but just between the card and the TV).

Tony

 

[Dr Tone]

By forcing DVI are you not making it run RGB full range?

Yes (but just between the card and the TV).

Tony

So how can you say because of your setup there isn't a problem? We could all set ours to RBG Full and recalibrate at the computer as well, it doesn't solve the problem.

 

[damaster]

Can someone check EVR.DLL for version number? Witch one is "working"?

I'm using This file which was posted by Kado on Doom9 forum in this thread

I'm curious: now that you're using an older EVR (albeit I'm using the SP1 one) do you have any issues, such as:
- video tearing? (I used SP1 EVR to eliminate video tearing)
- the subtitle delay of 1000ms as I am having? (I am using the SP1 EVR but still...)

 

[Dr Tone]

Can someone check EVR.DLL for version number? Witch one is "working"?

I'm using This file which was posted by Kado on Doom9 forum in this thread

I'm curious: now that you're using an older EVR (albeit I'm using the SP1 one) do you have any issues, such as:
- video tearing? (I used SP1 EVR to eliminate video tearing)
- the subtitle delay of 1000ms as I am having? (I am using the SP1 EVR but still...)

I can pack up the sp2 dll for you if you want to try it?

 

[damaster]

I'm using This file which was posted by Kado on Doom9 forum in this thread

I'm curious: now that you're using an older EVR (albeit I'm using the SP1 one) do you have any issues, such as:
- video tearing? (I used SP1 EVR to eliminate video tearing)
- the subtitle delay of 1000ms as I am having? (I am using the SP1 EVR but still...)

I can pack up the sp2 dll for you if you want to try it?

Why not? Go for it!

My SP1 EVR DLL works problem-free on my Vista (non-SP) system, except for the minor subtitle timing issue (subtitles are 1000ms early so I added a delay in the code for my own patch).