Moving Pictures Public Beta 0.5.5c (101 Viewers)

[DarkWader]

I haven't coded it yet, but I am planning on implementing cover art importing from the MyVideos thumbs folder. I think actual movie data will not happen this time around though.

Hi

What about having the grabber look for folder.jpg inside the movie folder?
I know many ppl have a setup like this, feks:

D:\Movies\10,000 BC (2008)\10.000BC.avi
D:\Movies\10,000 BC (2008)\10.000BC.srt
D:\Movies\10,000 BC (2008)\folder.jpg

I am not a coder, but doesnt this only require a few extra lines when locating the .avi file?
Scanning for movies in a folder environment is allready implented afaik...

And also, if its a walk in the park - what about adding the same for fanart? Like..
D:\Movies\10,000 BC (2008)\fanart.jpg ??

 

[fforde]

folder.jpg support is already implemented for the next version. I will look at doing something similar for fanart.

 

[zicoz]

Great, I am currently using MyMovies (the MCE plugin) since it splits up full covers to front and back and saves them in the movies folder, so my folders looks just like the one in DarkWaders example. And not having to add these manually really is alot of help

 

[joz]

Ok I've these errors in my log and trying to figure out where they're coming from. I think (not 100% sure) that Moving pictures is causing these to appear:

2008-10-18 10:50:25.562500 [ERROR][MPMain]: No translation found for id 196742
2008-10-18 10:50:25.593750 [ERROR][MPMain]: No translation found for id 188883
2008-10-10 23:20:44.390625 [ERROR][MPMain]: No translation found for id 188884

Why I think Moving Pictures is to blame, this is how I tested.
Fired up Mediaportal. All is fine (except for an error of MyWorldMap). Did some browsing thru basicmenu's, still no translation errors.
Then I loaded moving pictures and immediatly checked the logs and there the errors were.

I did my best to test this right, if you guys have a better way of testing this please enlighten me.

 

[carmenm]

Hi,
I have a question about fanart naming convention. What is the number at the end?
Do you think it would be possible to add the imdbId somewhere in the name? Let me explain why:
I currently uses MovingPictures as well as MyFilms and i really would like to share fanarts. Using the name of the movie is not that good because little things can differ in Myfilms naming convention and MovingPictures convention, or one can use original title and the other the translated title. ImdbId is universal and will never change. It allows to share fanarts between plugins and even between media centers.
What do you think?

 

[Raytestrak]

It looks really nice, but I don't find it more usefull than the standard videos plugin. I love the fanart, but I miss certain options or I'm not using it right. For instance, it would be nice to be able to delete movies, or hide movies you've watched. Or rescan images from within MP for movies which don't have a cover (movies without a cover should at least have an default icon, I get 'disoriented' if there are several movies without covers). It would be nice if you could do more from within mediaportal, instead of having to go to the plugin config. But again: it looks great, I'm sure this can become an awesome plugin. Just trying to give some constructive criticism.

 

[fforde]

Ok I've these errors in my log and trying to figure out where they're coming from. I think (not 100% sure) that Moving pictures is causing these to appear:

2008-10-18 10:50:25.562500 [ERROR][MPMain]: No translation found for id 196742
2008-10-18 10:50:25.593750 [ERROR][MPMain]: No translation found for id 188883
2008-10-10 23:20:44.390625 [ERROR][MPMain]: No translation found for id 188884

Why I think Moving Pictures is to blame, this is how I tested.
Fired up Mediaportal. All is fine (except for an error of MyWorldMap). Did some browsing thru basicmenu's, still no translation errors.
Then I loaded moving pictures and immediatly checked the logs and there the errors were.

I did my best to test this right, if you guys have a better way of testing this please enlighten me.

The first one is caused by Moving Pictures, the other two are caused by other plug-ins. This has to do with internationalization. MediaPortal is looking for a translation file for Moving Pictures, but one does not currently exist. I actually feel kind of guilty about this, it is something we should have done by now. I think we will not get to it for 0.6 but we will definitely get this worked on for 0.6.1. For now though the error messages are safe to ignore. They should probably be listed as warnings rather than errors.

Hi,
I have a question about fanart naming convention. What is the number at the end?
Do you think it would be possible to add the imdbId somewhere in the name? Let me explain why:
I currently uses MovingPictures as well as MyFilms and i really would like to share fanarts. Using the name of the movie is not that good because little things can differ in Myfilms naming convention and MovingPictures convention, or one can use original title and the other the translated title. ImdbId is universal and will never change. It allows to share fanarts between plugins and even between media centers.
What do you think?

Hrmm.. Well the number listed after the filename is a hash of the URL that the cover-art was retireved from. This ensures two things. First it creates a unique file name, and second it creates a reproducable filename based on a piece of artwork on the internet so that you don't get duplicates pulled down unwittingly.

As for using imdb id as the filename, this would work but limits you to only one backdrop. I realize we only support one backdrop right now with Moving Pictures, but this will change in the future, so we need to prepare for it. You can load in files by imdb id though. The plug-in will pick up any file of the format %imdb%.jpg, png, or gif that is in your backdrops folder. So I guess I am saying this naming convention already works, but Moving Pictures will unfortunately not do the renaming for you right now.

It looks really nice, but I don't find it more usefull than the standard videos plugin. I love the fanart, but I miss certain options or I'm not using it right. For instance, it would be nice to be able to delete movies, or hide movies you've watched. Or rescan images from within MP for movies which don't have a cover (movies without a cover should at least have an default icon, I get 'disoriented' if there are several movies without covers). It would be nice if you could do more from within mediaportal, instead of having to go to the plugin config. But again: it looks great, I'm sure this can become an awesome plugin. Just trying to give some constructive criticism.

Thanks for the feedback Raytestrak. You are right, there is a lot of fundamental functionality that is not yet available in Moving Pictures. You have to keep in mind that the first public release of the plug-in was only just over a month ago, so the plug-in is still very young.

As for your criticisms though:

1) Hiding watched movies is coming in the next release.
2) There is a already a background process that rescans for artwork for a all movies that are missing it. Additionally from the details page on the GUI there is an option on the context menu to update artwork for the selected movie if there currently is none available locally. Maybe you overlooked these options?
3) As for a default icon for movies without a cover I agree, this is a problem. It is primarily a skin issue, but it is something we should take care of in the default skin.

And in general, over time, yes, more will be possible in MediaPortal. The goal is to require the user to go into the configuration screen only for actual configuration options. All day to day task should be handled directly in the GUI, including handling the import process. This is a little ways of, but that is the goal.

So anyway, thanks for trying things out and thanks for your feedback. The next release coming soon will have a lot of new features that might add value for you, so if you have a chance, you should check out the upgrade.

 

[joz]

Hey John,

Thx for the reply.

I kinda thought that these "errors" are harmless.
I was/am trying to make some kind of all-in-one installer for MP (with skins, plugins, the whole 9 yards) and errors in logfiles are kinda sloppy for this purpose so that's why I'm hunting down the cause of these
If you might now the other 2 ID's or if there's any list where I could find them I'd be greatful. If not I have to go thru some process of elimination

p.s.
Don't be fealing guilty. You guys are spending so much time on this to make it perfect, really apreciate it!
Besides that it's a beta after all eh

 

[fforde]

Sorry i am not sure what plug-ins those IDs are from. Generally a plug-in's ID is listed at the beginning of it's skin file, but I did a search of my skin folder and couldn't find it.

 

[joz]

Well that's the first thing I did. A search of the complete skin folder (files) with the id's, they didn't show....
Thx for the help though.

So there's probably some plugin using more Id's or something... I guess elimination is the best way to go... I have too many plugins installed So was kinda looking for an easier way (as always)