New Music Tag Reader -- Testers needed (2 Viewers)

Status
Not open for further replies.

patrick

Portal Pro
April 20, 2005
608
45
Southeast
Home Country
United States of America United States of America
SteveV said:
files that include multiple artists delimited with semi-colons


AFAIK, it is not actually delimited values in the ID3 tag
but simply multiple artist fields/values.

This is possible for other fields also.
I copied the table below from MSDN.

Attribute Format Supporting for multiple values
Author ASF, MP3
WM/AlbumArtist ASF
WM/AlbumCoverURL ASF
WM/Category ASF
WM/Composer ASF, MP3
WM/Conductor ASF
WM/Director ASF
WM/Genre ASF
WM/GenreID ASF
WM/Language ASF, MP3
WM/Lyrics_Synchronised ASF, MP3
WM/Mood ASF, MP3
WM/Picture ASF, MP3
WM/Producer ASF
WM/PromotionURL ASF
WM/UserWebURL ASF, MP3
WM/Writer ASF, MP3

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wmform95/htm/id3tagsupport.asp

FWIW, the Windows Media Format SDK makes pretty easy/fast work
of reading MP3 and some other tag formats like WMA from managed code.

HTH,
patrick
 

mzemina

Retired Team Member
  • Premium Supporter
  • February 23, 2005
    2,065
    14
    Tulsa, OK
    Home Country
    United States of America United States of America
    rtv said:
    ...This has nothing to do with import as the database should contain the correct year. It could be implemented as another view.

    Steve, would you mind considering two new fields for the music database: dateAdded, dataLastModified?

    This would allow for some new interesting features like "Play only new songs from this month"

    This would be nice! Good idea rtv!
     

    GoldenEye

    MP Donator
  • Premium Supporter
  • October 26, 2005
    300
    26
    Switzerland
    Home Country
    Switzerland Switzerland
    SteveV said:
    Great to hear :)

    Regarding the track numbering problem; it only affects files with the Rock genre :? :?? Can you email a couple of the files affected with the track numbering problem along with a note indicating what the track numbering should be? Specifically, it would be helpful to have the file that is returning an empty track number (track 1) and another one with any track number greater than one.

    Thanks,

    Steve
    Here's the proof of this puzzling behaviour:

    060717multitagreader01sx1.png


    I'll send you the first two Eurythmics files by e-mail.

    G.
     

    NLS

    Portal Pro
    April 26, 2006
    922
    0
    50
    Home Country
    Greece Greece
    And where is this going to take us?

    Is it something to be incorporated in MP?

    Because right now, my 5000 (all in ONE folder) MP3 import fails miserably (doesn't crash, just doesn't do its job correctly)...

    Pitty MP still lacks some basic HTPC things.
    (of course we are still on the boat because of all the rest it gives)
     

    SteveV

    Retired Team Member
  • Premium Supporter
  • October 13, 2005
    340
    0
    Boston, Massachusetts USA
    patrick said:
    AFAIK, it is not actually delimited values in the ID3 tag
    but simply multiple artist fields/values.

    I've not run into this. But since my entire collection consists almost entrirely of Monkey's Audio (.ape) encoded files I'm not too surprised. However, it does sound like some tagging apps may have allowed the user to specify multiple artists using a delimited list of sorts.

    FWIW, the Windows Media Format SDK makes pretty easy/fast work
    of reading MP3 and some other tag formats like WMA from managed code.

    HTH,
    patrick

    Correct. We're using the WMF SDK for WMA audio files. As far as MP3's are concerned, some player/tagger apps (notably FooBar) allow replacing MP3 ID3V2.x tags with APEV2 tags. Something the WMF SDK doesn't support.

    Thanks for the info :)

    Steve
     

    SteveV

    Retired Team Member
  • Premium Supporter
  • October 13, 2005
    340
    0
    Boston, Massachusetts USA
    GoldenEye said:
    Here's the proof of this puzzling behaviour:

    I'll send you the first two Eurythmics files by e-mail.

    G.

    No proof required. I believe you :D -- just find it odd. The files should help me chase down the problem.

    Thanks for testing,

    Steve
     

    SteveV

    Retired Team Member
  • Premium Supporter
  • October 13, 2005
    340
    0
    Boston, Massachusetts USA
    NLS said:
    And where is this going to take us?

    Is it something to be incorporated in MP?

    Because right now, my 5000 (all in ONE folder) MP3 import fails miserably (doesn't crash, just doesn't do its job correctly)...

    Pitty MP still lacks some basic HTPC things.
    (of course we are still on the boat because of all the rest it gives)

    Yes.

    I'm afraid that having all 5000 files in one folder is still going to present problems regardless of the tag reader. In most cases there simply isn't enough information to determine the album that a particular song belongs to.

    If for example I have 3 albums with the same name ("Live", "Greatest Hits", etc), from 3 different artists it's not possible to determine which of these albums a given song belongs to. Having albums organized in seperate folders improves the odds of success significantly :wink: And while we'll certainly try to improve accuracy for cases such as yours, I'm not entriely sure we can ever get this working to a satisfactory level.

    The saving grace may be the "AlbumArtist" field. If your files are tagged with accurate "AlbumArtist" info, the next version of the importer should do a good job regardless of how your files are organized.

    Steve
     

    NLS

    Portal Pro
    April 26, 2006
    922
    0
    50
    Home Country
    Greece Greece
    some of us may NOT want album classification

    I just want a simple file based shorted list (my files are perfectly ok - same for the tags, just mostly NO album info)... and this simple thing cannot be done currently
     

    onkl

    Portal Pro
    February 18, 2005
    341
    0
    48
    Wageningen
    Home Country
    Netherlands Netherlands
    NLS said:
    some of us may NOT want album classification

    I just want a simple file based shorted list (my files are perfectly ok - same for the tags, just mostly NO album info)... and this simple thing cannot be done currently
    What's wrong with the "files" or "shares" view? I'm using this -for the same reason- every day.
     
    Status
    Not open for further replies.

    Users who are viewing this thread

    Top Bottom