Problems getting TV series working right (1 Viewer)

Serberus

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I'm not currently using the myTV function, as I don't have a TV card yet, but I'm curious about this for future reference...

If I'm understanding correctly, the issue is with the naming of the files coming from the myTV plugin rather than the My TV Series plugin. If that's the case, it would probably be a question better asked on that forum rather than here?

I remembered seeing a plugin a while ago which might help for the time being...
https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/plugins-47/media-renamer-v2-0b4-2009-02-08-a-13547/

Hope this helps!
 

jonaskp

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I'm not currently using the myTV function, as I don't have a TV card yet, but I'm curious about this for future reference...

If I'm understanding correctly, the issue is with the naming of the files coming from the myTV plugin rather than the My TV Series plugin. If that's the case, it would probably be a question better asked on that forum rather than here?

I remembered seeing a plugin a while ago which might help for the time being...
https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/plugins-47/media-renamer-v2-0b4-2009-02-08-a-13547/

Hope this helps!
MediaRenmaer is a great little utility, but it still depends on correct information in order to do the renaming. It can only "translate" absolute numbering to Season/Episode Numbering, if both absolute and Season/Episode is present on thetvdb.com.


Also, I don't quite understand what is happening with the naming of the recordings. I remember back when I used MyTV for recording I had no issues with the naming of TV-series. Only problem, was when the EPG was not right or was missing, but thats a different problem.
It seems that your recordings is named totally different from what you want it to be, which is very strange.
Can you please try and write the excact "naming code" that you are currently using?
And just another stupid question: You are certain that you are naming the correct schedules? You have to change the naming for "TV-series" (I think it is called). This naming change will only work if the programme you are recording, are recorded as a reoccurring (= 3 little red dots) - otherwise it will use the naming for "Movies".
I apologize if this sounds trivial and you have already tried it, but in my past experience with solving IT-related problems (both my own and for others), sometimes it is the smallest, most stupid things that can cause problems.

The reason I don't quite remember is that I currently use ForTheRecord for my recordings, and there a lot more possibilities regarding custom naming of recordings.
 

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I'm not currently using the myTV function, as I don't have a TV card yet, but I'm curious about this for future reference...

If I'm understanding correctly, the issue is with the naming of the files coming from the myTV plugin rather than the My TV Series plugin. If that's the case, it would probably be a question better asked on that forum rather than here?

I remembered seeing a plugin a while ago which might help for the time being...
https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/plugins-47/media-renamer-v2-0b4-2009-02-08-a-13547/

Hope this helps!
MediaRenmaer is a great little utility, but it still depends on correct information in order to do the renaming. It can only "translate" absolute numbering to Season/Episode Numbering, if both absolute and Season/Episode is present on thetvdb.com.


Also, I don't quite understand what is happening with the naming of the recordings. I remember back when I used MyTV for recording I had no issues with the naming of TV-series. Only problem, was when the EPG was not right or was missing, but thats a different problem.
It seems that your recordings is named totally different from what you want it to be, which is very strange.
Can you please try and write the excact "naming code" that you are currently using?
And just another stupid question: You are certain that you are naming the correct schedules? You have to change the naming for "TV-series" (I think it is called). This naming change will only work if the programme you are recording, are recorded as a reoccurring (= 3 little red dots) - otherwise it will use the naming for "Movies".
I apologize if this sounds trivial and you have already tried it, but in my past experience with solving IT-related problems (both my own and for others), sometimes it is the smallest, most stupid things that can cause problems.

The reason I don't quite remember is that I currently use ForTheRecord for my recordings, and there a lot more possibilities regarding custom naming of recordings.

I know the difference between the movie and series recording settings. This is the way I have the series naming them right now.

%title%\%title% - %episode%

This seems to be working better than the way I was naming them in the beginning of this thread. I need to test some more though.
 

Vindii

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So this naming seem to work better.

%title%\%title% - %episode%

I had it using the series name also but that was causing it problems detecting. Now the only problem I have is it seems that a couple of my channels do not save with a episode number. Is this a problem with the EPG data or something else. Is there something else I could add to the naming rule that would help TV-Series detect what episode it is? I have tried it using the episode name but it didn't seem to be able to get the name most of the time.
Most of the problems seem to be with ABC. Is it something to do with that network only?

Any ideas?
 

jonaskp

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So this naming seem to work better.

%title%\%title% - %episode%

I had it using the series name also but that was causing it problems detecting. Now the only problem I have is it seems that a couple of my channels do not save with a episode number. Is this a problem with the EPG data or something else. Is there something else I could add to the naming rule that would help TV-Series detect what episode it is? I have tried it using the episode name but it didn't seem to be able to get the name most of the time.
Most of the problems seem to be with ABC. Is it something to do with that network only?

Any ideas?

If the episode numbers are empty, then that is definately a problem with the EPG.
Personally I wouldn't use the Episode name for two reasons: 1: As you have noticed, its actually very rare this is even in the EPG (atleast correctly) 2: There is a chance that the episode name that is in the EPG is not the "correct" name that is written on Thetvdb.com and could therefor confuse the parser. It's more safe to just use the episode numbers.

Remember that you have to set the series to be using absolute numbers, when first scanning and importing the series. As far as I know, it is not possible to have a mix of Season/Episode and absolute numbering for the same series. This means that any episode of the show that you currently have named like this "Title - 01x02" would have to be renamed if you plan on using the absolute numbering from now on.


I have tried playing a bit with the absolute numbering, but haven't gotten it to parse correctly yet. As far as I have discovered, it seems that when using absolute numbering, you still have to write as if the episode is part of season 1. Example: "Title - 01x150". I am not sure if it is working, but that's what I've read.
 

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Ok so this is were I'm at. I have better results using this naming format.

%title%\%title% - %episode%

This seems to auto detect all series except the ones I record from ABC. Those recording dont seem to save with a episode number on them. Here is an example:

If I record Hells Kitchen is saves like this. This is on fox i think.

Hells kitchen - 512.ts

Tv Series see this as hells kitchen season 5 episode 12 and it auto detects and puts it into tv series. The probelm with ABC is it does not save the season or episode numbers Example:

lost - -.ts

It is just blank. ABC does this for all the episodes on that channel. Fox, NBC,CBS all work fine. The part I am confused about is when I go to recorded TV and view the same recording (lost) I can see the episode name and description so somehow recorded tv can tell what episode number and season it is. I would think that both TV series and the recorded tv sections should be getting there info from the same source (EPG?).

Why would one have the number and not the other? What can I do to get this to work. It's not really a usable plugin if you have to rename these before you can get them to show up.

Anyone got any ideas?
 

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Well I give up. I can't make this plugin work correctly. Just going to stop using it. It would be nice if the support here was better. Doesn't seem like anyone understands how this thing is supposed to work.
 

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I think you're barking at the wrong tree here. MP-TVseries is working like a charm (over here, not using TV recordings). Seems to me like you're still having problems with My-TV recordings (MediaPortal...)
 

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    Vindii,

    The issue is with the EPG information as you noted. and how the info is stored in the MyTV database. The problem isn't with the MPTV Series plugin, it is not tied to the MyTV section of MediaPortal and is not designed to check the EPG for information.

    I've never set a recorded program to be added to MPTV Series (yet), but when I rip the Episodes from DVD I have to manually name the files to reflect the rule I made. (eg., <series>\S<season>E<episode>.<ext>), so an Episode name would be simply, something like, S01E022.ts for Season one, episode 22.

    So, you see, it is all in how you name the recorded file. Since the network is not reporting episode info in the same way as the others so the file name doesn't show up the same it is not really a reason to dis the plugin. You may have to edit the filename to include the info as long as THAT network doesn't fall into line with everyone else. :)

    regards,

    Chuck
     

    Vindii

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    Vindii,

    The issue is with the EPG information as you noted. and how the info is stored in the MyTV database. The problem isn't with the MPTV Series plugin, it is not tied to the MyTV section of MediaPortal and is not designed to check the EPG for information.

    I've never set a recorded program to be added to MPTV Series (yet), but when I rip the Episodes from DVD I have to manually name the files to reflect the rule I made. (eg., <series>\S<season>E<episode>.<ext>), so an Episode name would be simply, something like, S01E022.ts for Season one, episode 22.

    So, you see, it is all in how you name the recorded file. Since the network is not reporting episode info in the same way as the others so the file name doesn't show up the same it is not really a reason to dis the plugin. You may have to edit the filename to include the info as long as THAT network doesn't fall into line with everyone else. :)

    regards,

    Chuck

    It doesn't make sence that the TV section in mediaportal can display the Tv show episode name and full written description but this plugin can't. The whole point of this plugin is to have a cool looking interface with your TV series. i have yet to hear from anyone the is using this for recorded tv series and it is working good. Most keep saying that it work good for them but they are not using it with TV recordings.

    If the only way to do this is to rename some of the recording then its not worth it to me. I'll just use the recorded TV section to view my tv series and live without the banners.

    I understand that TV series does not check the EPG for info. The thing I don't understand is why some channels save with the episode number in them and others don't? Even the ones that don't save with episode numbers still have descriptions in the recorded TV section.
     

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