I give up lol I tried installing Rollup 2 for MCE 2005 and I keep getting an error and it says click ok to restart I tried removing hotfixes as suggested by members on other forums having similar problems etc.. nothing works I get the same error when it comes to Hotfix KB891593 I even tried downloading that Hotfix and installing it still a no show Oh well.. I'll probably install Vista on another partition then run the setup on there