1080i material not deinterlacing under 1.0.1.0 (2 Viewers)

tourettes

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    That must be the most complete picture quality description I have ever heard... Unfortunately it won't help anyone to troubleshoot the issue you are seeing. Please be more descriptive and maybe someone could help you.

    To me it sounds like you are seeing some deinterlace issue, but God (if anyone believens in Santa Clause and his friends) are the only ones who might know what you are seeing.
     

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    Sorry for not knowing what words to describe the flaws in the picture. :rolleyes:

    How about I just ask why 720p is at 50fps using shift! but all interlaced content is 25pfs?

    Andrew: I was looking at the pay-tv 576i to compare that to free to air 576i - no other reason. Naturally I would normally watch the 720p. Free to air in this case is digital although we still have analogue which is about to be phased out. Reception is fine - logs state signal qulity 100%. 720p channels perfect.
    "The thread you're reading is focusing on INTERLACED display issues." - which I was doing unlike all the posts about what hardware to change to when I don't believe its a hardware issue.

    Owlsroost: Have used PowerDVD (used to use SAF 3.47) - same result.

    I will do a fresh 1.0.0 install in the next few days as others have done. That should completely rule out reception, codec, TV card issues.

    Unless you suggest I get a quad coreQ9650 & GTX 295 video........
     

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    With MP 1.0.1 (and the same with 1.0.2) they changed how they write the display -- now using TEXTURES. Using these textures my video chip was underpowered and buying a N9500GT restored 60fps on 1080i video which had fallen to 30fps with the 'new' MP. (720p video was unphased by this new TEXTURE writing of the video.) This sounds amazingly like your 720p vs 576i issue, doesn't it?

    You say the free-to-air is digital but have not answered whether the 576i (you are saying is of poor quality) is analog via cable, OTA-digital, OTA-analog, or what! OK, in a round-about way you ARE saying the Free-to-air, 576i is digital, but you don't know what the cable-TV provider is doing with their (clean) 576i signal. I'm trying to help you figure whether the 576i issue is with the Hauppauge driver, or an interlace issue which we're saying is a hardware UNDER-power issue with the new TEXTURE writing. Did you read all the hyperlinks in my last post? Do they address your issue? Does the HVR-2200 work JUST GREAT under WinXP MCE, the Hauppauge WIN-TV application they provide, or are they too of 'poor quality' as well? See.... you need to help sort out the component that isn't playing nicely... by using these tools (and the internet) you'll be able to help us, help you :)

    I'm not sure a MP 1.0.0 install will rule out any of the issues you mention. Fact is, it will rule out the 'new' texture writing issue and nothing else. My guess is if you get clean 576i under MP 1.0.0 you will need to add more advanced hardware (which is the point of this thread).

    I'm a bit at a loss as I'm an AMD-buyer... seems the NVidia 9400 on-board would be sufficient with a decent CPU... so how is the E8500 in comparison? Are you experiencing RAM loss with the 4GB you have under WinXP ? I'm still trying to figure just how robust your system is and why you'd be experiencing this GPU issue. Any takers... how would you rate his build? I know my system benefited greatly by adding the N9500GT.
     

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    Here in Denmark i get a really good looking picture from our DVB-T 576i signal. According to the onscreenmenu that is shown with Shift + 1 I get 25 fps served which is what I would expect when you deinterlace a 576i (50 Hz) to a progressive signal.

    My old settopbox only has SCART so its different to say if the image-quality is damaged to much to compare the two things, but I'm at least really happy about the 576i. This fall we'll get 1080i signals and that may be another story ;)
     

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    That must be the most complete picture quality description I have ever heard... Unfortunately it won't help anyone to troubleshoot the issue you are seeing. Please be more descriptive and maybe someone could help you.

    To me it sounds like you are seeing some deinterlace issue, but God (if anyone believens in Santa Clause and his friends) are the only ones who might know what you are seeing.

    C'mon Tourettes..... everybody knows Santa can only tell if you've been good or bad...... not how good the picture is on your TV!
     

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    That must be the most complete picture quality description I have ever heard... Unfortunately it won't help anyone to troubleshoot the issue you are seeing. Please be more descriptive and maybe someone could help you.

    To me it sounds like you are seeing some deinterlace issue, but God (if anyone believens in Santa Clause and his friends) are the only ones who might know what you are seeing.

    C'mon Tourettes..... everybody knows Santa can only tell if you've been good or bad...... not how good the picture is on your TV!

    But he can bring you the new (better) HW to get rid of the issues that you are hacing with the current one :)

    ...a little bit off topic, so please no more post on this topic :p
     

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    I have an IMAX sample clip in 1080i that my pretty average Athlon 64 X2 4600+ and an onboard ATI 1250 can play back nicely in both MPC HC and MediaPortal. Only thing is that it drops frames and has jitter if I use VMR9 (renderless). With VMR9 (windowed) it works fine with both PowerDVD 8, FFDShow and MPC-MPEG2 as decoder.

    The file is in .ts format.

    I also have a couple of MKV's that are supposedly in 1080i (25 fps), but how can I really tell if it's interlaced? And how can I tell if they're MPEG-2 or MPEG-4? For instance, a clip property is in Haali shown like this:
    - Connection media type:

    Video: MPG2 1920x1080 25.00fps

    Well, I'm pretty sure it's not MPEG-2, so why is this file reported as is?
     

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    You could try checking the files with MediaInfo - this is actually the software (as a dll) MP uses to get media file info.

    Tony
     

    tourettes

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    You could try checking the files with MediaInfo - this is actually the software (as a dll) MP uses to get media file info.

    Simpler just to look at the MP log, as it should cotain the output of mediainfo.
     

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    As I understand they've changed how to write display. I'm abit confused that it has not been tested with deinterlaced stream or recorded stuff.

    In 1.0.0.0 all works good...so why change? Buying better gfx card or phenom cpu is not an option facing higher power consumption, cause it works beforehand.

    So this is my wish to the Devs, please roll back the old method, that I can use the HD 1080i Channels with onboard gfx again.

    greetz.
    ieb
     

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