1080i material not deinterlacing under 1.0.1.0 (4 Viewers)

[globaldonkey]

As I understand they've changed how to write display. I'm abit confused that it has not been tested with deinterlaced stream or recorded stuff.

In 1.0.0.0 all works good...so why change? Buying better gfx card or phenom cpu is not an option facing higher power consumption, cause it works beforehand.

So this is my wish to the Devs, please roll back the old method, that I can use the HD 1080i Channels with onboard gfx again.

greetz.
ieb

I think you best (re)read this thread from the start to understand why the change was necessary.

 

[trylok]

Changing hardware makes no difference on my case. Testet it with an 9500GT and an Quadcore CPU. Get allways the same crappy Picture (chaggies and horizontal lines) on SD channels since 1.0.0.2 update. HD Channels are fine (HD Swisse/ ORF-HD...).
If i turn of DXVA, picture is fine again, but this is no option, because high CPU usage.
The Picture looks like antialiasing is not working.

1.0.0.0 works perfect in this case.

 

[ichessblumen]

globaldonkey,

issue was surface. so change was made that video and osd has to work properly in 1.0.2. Now more gfx power or phenom (for HT) is needed to reach 50-60fps.That's my understanding.

How comes, that 1.0.0.0. works fine ( video and osd) with 1080i@50Hz?

For me it's incomprehensible and I cannot believe, that there won't be another method or workaround.
Both Homecinema from Terratec and DVB viewer working (also with OSD eg. Program Info a.s.o.) with 1080i.

So, cmon devs, please dig in and find out what's wrong. It's not an ATI thing.

If you like, I'll post what you need for support.

so long.
ieb

 

[globaldonkey]

Well if you've read everything here and still want to push that point, then I think I'll sit back and enjoy the show.

 

[ichessblumen]

yeahh, yeahh ....

My wish was owning a htpc could handle all this stuff with onboard gfx and a less power consuming cpu. Until 1.0 it worked (even with 0.2.3.). So I built a homebrew case for that...and now....on a 150W PSU extra gfx or phenom cpu?
doesn't make sense, right pal?

So next thing is trying a higher HT in BIOS and if it doesn't work.....too bad, I roll back to 1.0.

 

[Andrew H]

@ieb -- While I'm empathetic to the cry of why should I upgrade, I don't have sympathy that the BE-2400/HD3200 combo will work - it's too close to my (BE-2350/7050PV) system which a N9500GT fixed right up. Whether your running Vista presents any other issue or different configuration settings than my WinXP-SP3 I can't say. And, again, I'm stumped as to which format (MPEG-2, .264, digital stream, analog stream & hardware encode) the tuner card you're addressing is having difficulty with. PLEASE use the link in the next paragraph to address tuner card issues as this thread is for interlace issues. I've already pointed out how this coding decision represents a departure from a typical front-end. I'll ask you not to pursue fighting this until you become a developer... or do you have a quick/simple solution to post? It's taken weeks worth of exchanges to get where we are (on undertstanding this interlaced judder/dropped frame issue)... at least we know what was done (new textures/VRM9 usage), why (unified ATi and OSD/graphics), and how to deal with it (install a better GPU, or CPU w/HT 3.0) or not (revert to MP 1.0.0.0 and never upgrade)!

@tryloc -- As far as the Quad-core/N9500GT not working under SD video I'll have to point you back up to an earlier post where I referred another poster with SD issues -- how can you say it's an interlace issue when it's not apparent on HD? Is the HD a progressive or interlaced format? Have you determined it's not a reception issue, or encoding issue with your tuner card -- apparently they're having issue with some of the cards and since your system works under these other applications try playing a file created under one of those back in MP to see how the file plays! This should isolate MP's playback from reception/driver issues. I can't believe your issue would be with the hardware; instead I'd guess it's more with the codecs, tuner or reception. I'll also remind you to fill in your MY SYSTEM in the User CP so we can better understand where you're coming from as we read your post.

I just found the HD Swisse is 720p and potentially the ORF-HD as well. Since these two are 720p they are immune to the interlaced issue being discussed on this thread.

 

[ichessblumen]

@ AndrewH,

I don't like fighting and I am not a developer nor do I intend to become one ;-)

Your 7050V chipset was not dxva ready like the HD3200. So the comparison is not similar.Cant' agree.
I had the same rig running under XP SP3 with 1.0. And it's not a tuner issue....it worked before.
As stated before, it refers only to 1080i channels.

Now comes the big BUT...and that's the question why the Devs changed is not comprehensible (unified ATi and OSD/graphics). It is not the 30 bucks for a new gfx...it's the more power consumption. It's not that it leave a dent in my wallet but it's a principle.

 

[Owlsroost]

As already stated in this thread (in a heated discussion - read the pages from https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/1-0-1-svn-builds-313/1080i-material-not-deinterlacing-under-1-0-1-0-a-58486/index8.html), the devs are not going to revert back to the earlier video rendering method - it was incorrect and was creating the 'flickering GUI' problem for some ATi users.

Tony

 

[kiwijunglist]

AFAIK flickering GUI problem was a vista+ati only problem and can be fixed using single processer afinity, i thought mediaportal was designed for XP hence i think the changes to rendering that introduce 1080i problems with integrated graphics reflect a poor direction in development.

ps: I've read a lot of Andrew H's post's on this thread and I think his post's need to be taken with a 'grain of salt'

 

[Jeditrav]

AFAIK flickering GUI problem was a vista+ati only problem and can be fixed using single processer afinity, i thought mediaportal was designed for XP hence i think the changes to rendering that introduce 1080i problems with integrated graphics reflect a poor direction in development.

ps: I've read a lot of Andrew H's post's on this thread and I think his post's need to be taken with a 'grain of salt'

Agreed