ATI 690G/x1250 problems (2 Viewers)

[tourettes]

Well, 50Hz is must if you are watching PAL material or you will end up in the jerky playback when 25fps is tried to sync to 60Hz (wich is not possible).

You are right, sync is not possible. But the graphic card can make a pulldown like correction, I assume? NTSC users watch 24 fps movies corrected like that (3:2 Telecine pulldown) every day. It can´t be sooo bad or jerky. I activated "pulldown detection" Avivo CCC (dunno if it is important, but recommended)

Pal dvd does not play jerky neither does 1080i/50. It does not disturb me. I tested sveral times forcing 50 Hz and e.g. scrolling text was not fluider (set it back to 60 because overscan correction is otherwise nit possible).

Believe me the 3:2 pulldown is very visible (NA people has just looked at it for all their lives and have got to used to it). Also the 60Hz doesn't give any less flickering screen with todays LCD / Plasma technology as there isn't similar on/off flickering happening as there is with CRT technology. Plasma & LCD are always keeping the pixels active, so they woulnd't have any flickering even if they would be driven with 1hz refresh rate (of cource all the motion would be very jerky).

ps. I'm not forcing you to use 50Hz, but it's better

 

[Lotsofjazz]

In XP my experience is that 60Hz doesnt work properly, you get lots of tearing. With Vsync ("wait for Vertical refresh" under 3D options, all settings in Catalyst) allways ON, makes it a little better, but still not perfect, after setting the resolution to 720P50hz, it plays rather smooth.. but with a little blurring of course with fast movements.

With a 100Hz TV this should be eliminated, that scrolling text being a blur is just the technical limitation of your TV, You would also have it when watching via a set top box connected via HDMI. The ATI card cant help that and should not be blamed for this.

I have now managed to get Vista on my computer, lets see if 60H works better here, due to directX10 that may handle grahics a little better.. we will see.

 

[kszabo]

Anyone experiences with Catalyst 8.2? It is out! I experienced enough jet

 

[rtv]

Anyone experiences with Catalyst 8.2? It is out! I experienced enough jet

Why not directly checking Catalyst 8.45?

 

[Shebang]

Anyone experiences with Catalyst 8.2? It is out! I experienced enough jet

I tried it with an Asus M2A-VM HDMI motherboard running on Windows XP MCE.

Mediaportal skin still freezes with this driver, so this didn't fixed the bug unfortunately......

 

[Lotsofjazz]

With 8.1 driver and vista on my ATIx1250 (Abit fatal1ty I90HD motherboard) at least the Xface skin runs smoothly, Filmstrip with reflections all working fine now.. So for that, changing to Vista was a good move!.. I have not tried other skins though..

rtv: 8.45 is the display driver only, Catalyst Software suite 8.2, is the software including this 8.45 display driver(8.453 actually), so that IS the same. Check the release notes of catalys 8.2 software suite here:

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/gamesite/Catalyst_82_release_notes.html

Beside that it is advised to install the complete suite, because that also includes the southbridge driver updates and the catalyst software, you also need to configure the card. During installation you can deselect the free game and other BS that comes with the suite. I just install the driver, southbridge driver and catalyst software, all other things I dont need I uncheck.

I will give it a try tonight! I have an issue with one MP4 HD movie file that plays badly (others seem to work fine) using Cyberlink H264 codec with Hardware accelleration enabled (with disabled it is worse!), maybe this driver will resolve that. Right now I am using ffdshow for H264 decoding, which works fine also with this MP4 file, but with hardware decoding it should be better, which right now it is not.

When I still was on XP I used the Project Mayhem III skin, this one works very good with the ATI1250 and looks/works very nice

Lots

 

[kszabo]

Guys, I've let myself convince that 50 Hz is much better for Europe. But I cannot get the overscan corrected, and it annoys me. My tries:

- adjust/disable overscan of my TV (Panasonic TH-42PX): not possible, even in the hidden service menü (there is no V and H-Amp option)
- Powerstrip: does not function (1. tried as framerate fix only -> no sound at all of Windows!, maybe I should not use HDMI for sound, 2. tried as overscan fix with the suggested method with "custom resolutions" or "resolution in a resolution": the desktop will be too small, the TV scales itself differently)
- AFAIK composite input supports only 60 Hz of my TV

Any idea/suggestions/help?

Maybe 8.2 has the support of 50 Hz HDMI scaling?

 

[Lotsofjazz]

hmm, for me the "custom resolution" works pretty well.

Its done as follows..DO NOT USE THE FORCE RESOLUTION something, or FORCE TV Detection.. because that screws it up!...(been there done that.. trust me)

It works as follows:

in the upper panel, Select the PAL resolution that suits your TV best , click apply (now the PAL resolution is added to the list below)
in the lower panel select the just added STANDARD 50Hz resolution, Apply
Click the Add button beside the selectable resolutions.. now you get the adjustment window. click on the arrows and schrink or expand the white window that it just fits your television screen, blue edge just invisible, it may be required to UNcheck the Keep aspect ratio to accomplish this.. really, with aspect ratio checked, it might just be the case the aspect ratio is WRONG, because the pixels are NOT square!

If all ok, click ACCEPT.. you turn back to catalyst now and a CUSTOM resolution is added to the lower panel, to make sure you keep this resolution, select this new custom resolution and click Apply display setting (or something) BESIDE the resolution panel, confirm setting with YES in 10 seconds

This worked for me, with already oldfashioned JVC LT32S60 LCD TV HD-Ready, I watch 720P/50 in a resolution of 1032x688 (duh!?), I have tried to force 1080i/25Hz, but this doesnt like my TV.. it worked a little, but could not adjust the resolution, and sometimes the TV powered itself off... I checked the specs and the 1080i is only in 30Hz, not 50 or 25. But in 720P picture quality is excellent, and also NGC-HD which is broadcasted in 1080i/50 is brilliant and smooth.

I hope this helps!

Lots

 

[warmy]

Same issue as everyone else Latest drivers and Bios on my Gigabye 690G board. Xface freeze's and so does Blue two wide. Going to try the edited xml files later.

I can switch to Vista but won't the performance be a big hit compared to XP for a HTPC?

 

[kszabo]

Vista works much better with the 690G/x1250 for me. No patches needed, nice skins with reflections, no tearing at all etc. Other say XP works better, but probably with other hardware. I did not reckognize big performance lost with Vista.

Edit: My system is fast enough for Vista, maybe with slower ones some can have performance issues