[Beta - Update 2013/08/09] MP3D - Render 3D videos via MediaPortal! (1 Viewer)

[aasoror]

Re: [PoC - Update 2010/09/12] MP3D - Render 3D via MediaPortal!

You can try the same for enabling the NVIDIA format (FilterPropertyValues/Filterproperty 102/NextPropertyValue = 106 ...)

Hi there, first let me thank you for the fine work you sharing with us.
I do have a question, I was trying to enable rendering the output by "software pageflipping" this is a solution that requires no hardware support whatsoever so unlike "NVIDIA output" it wont ever crash your box if chosen. (and it works fine on my Stereoscopic Player v1.6.6)

That said I examined the XML file quoted and noted the menu items IDs as well as the Prev/Next property values, my findings was as follows: entry (prev, id, next)

MonoR (102, 103, 152)
SoftPageFlip (0, 108, 0) this is the item not displayed.
StereoBrightL (103, 152, 153)

Because I want to insert SoftpageFlip right in between these two items my mods were as follow:

MonoR (102, 103, 108)
SoftPageFlip (103, 108, 152) this is the item now in between.
StereoBrightL (108, 152, 153)

I did no other changes.Needless to say, though seemed correct, the plugin will crash (exit movie playback) as soon as 3D mode is enabled, before even selecting "software page flipping" as a desired output.

I would really really appreciate it if you can have a look into this issue.

Please find attached my modified xml file in case you want to take a look at what I have done. I know you are not supporting modded xmls so it would be great if you can update the plugin configuration to include software page flipping.

Thanks again,
Thanks again,

 

[ScRePt]

Re: [PoC - Update 2010/09/12] MP3D - Render 3D via MediaPortal!

I did not examine your xml changes but I would strongly suggest erasing the "PerSourceValues" from your xml. It is possible that the xml is correct but MP3D is crashing due to "remembering" your last unsupported output (ie NVIDIA)

I hope this will get you going!

 

[aasoror]

Re: [PoC - Update 2010/09/12] MP3D - Render 3D via MediaPortal!

I did not examine your xml changes but I would strongly suggest erasing the "PerSourceValues" from your xml. It is possible that the xml is correct but MP3D is crashing due to "remembering" your last unsupported output (ie NVIDIA)

I hope this will get you going!

Thank you so much for your prompt reply.
Unfortunately that didn't fix it , I have even tried files that wasn't opened before so never listed in the "PerSourceValues", it still instantaneously exists playback once 3D is enabled.
I wonder if there is any other integrity checks in the file that I should be changing when adding items to the menus.

TIA

 

[ScRePt]

Re: [PoC - Update 2010/09/12] MP3D - Render 3D via MediaPortal!

Ok, try the following:
Rename the xml to something else.
Run media portal. Enter 3D mode for a random video. Stop the video and media portal.
There will be a new xml. Change your values to the new xml and run mediaportal again (Do not change the GlobalValues ...). 3D mode should be ok now.
If not attach your new xml to investigate further.

There is no integrity check to the parametric xml. There would be no point. It only validates that the xml is valid and that the Ids are valid.

 

[aasoror]

Re: [PoC - Update 2010/09/12] MP3D - Render 3D via MediaPortal!

Ok, try the following:
Rename the xml to something else.
Run media portal. Enter 3D mode for a random video. Stop the video and media portal.
There will be a new xml. Change your values to the new xml and run mediaportal again (Do not change the GlobalValues ...). 3D mode should be ok now.
If not attach your new xml to investigate further.

There is no integrity check to the parametric xml. There would be no point. It only validates that the xml is valid and that the Ids are valid.

ok here is the update.
It broke the very first time I changed the output mode. Here is some details:
- plugin worked fine just after the xml was changed, and I was able to turn it on and turn it off several time without a problem.
- I couldn't find the changes reflected in the main menu (by pressing F9)

1. Back
2. Output 2D ..
3. Side by side ..
4. Over / Under ..
5. Row interlaced ..
6. Column interlaced ..
7. True anaglyph ..
8. Gray anaglyph ..
9. Half color anaglyph ..
10. Color anaglyph ..
11. Optical anaglyph ..
12. StereoBright ..

- Alternatively by pressing 0 and using arrow to change output, the plugin crash just going past "Monoscopic Left" (which matches the correct order in the modified xml).
- after the first crash the plugin will continue to crash whenever enabled regardless of the file being watching.
- I am using the version 1.6.5 of the filter (not sure if that makes a difference) but you mentioned version 1.6.4

Find attached two xml files (one file is after the xml is modified but before attempting to run the plugin in "pageflipping" mode and the other is after the crash)

Thanks again,

 

[ScRePt]

Re: [PoC - Update 2010/09/12] MP3D - Render 3D via MediaPortal!

Well, it seems that page-flipping is not supported out of the box. Maybe some extra inputs are expected from the filter. I am sorry but I guess the plugin needs to be modified and right now I just don't have the time.

Can you please provide some extra details of "what is page-flipping" ??

Also, the new mode is not visible through the menu cause you need to add a new menu under output formats (say "Special") and then supply a new menu-item (ie "Page-flipping". See the NVIDIA xml i've attached in a previous post to get you going.

 

[aasoror]

Re: [PoC - Update 2010/09/12] MP3D - Render 3D via MediaPortal!

Well, it seems that page-flipping is not supported out of the box. Maybe some extra inputs are expected from the filter. I am sorry but I guess the plugin needs to be modified and right now I just don't have the time.

Can you please provide some extra details of "what is page-flipping" ??

Also, the new mode is not visible through the menu cause you need to add a new menu under output formats (say "Special") and then supply a new menu-item (ie "Page-flipping". See the NVIDIA xml i've attached in a previous post to get you going.

Page flipping is one way to display 3D image on shutter glasses its a computer based solution that doesn't require any 3D compatibility from the display (beside the ability to run at a constant refresh rate : old CRTs, any DLP's and all LCD with refresh rate 100hz+). Thats how NVIDIA (and newer ATI) glasses work.

Software page flipping emulates the NVIDIA/ATI page flipping on any graphics card, there is no need for stereoscopic support to be present on the card because the computer CPU takes responsibility of creating the stereo images.

I have been using this mode with all versions of Stereoscopic player (including the latest 1.6.6) and it running fine, it even runs without the glasses connected (no 3D effect of course but you can see the stereo images on the screen).

Yes, you are properly right, the filter might be needing some extra work, that said I don't understand why it would keep crashing after the first attempt even if you are trying to enable the 3D plugin on a new file (does it always use the last settings even for new files) ?

Here is some info that might be of help to you, using Stereoscopic player and running my 3D files (in any output modes including those supported by your plugin) it shows that the "3dtv.at Stereo Renderer" is being used as well as "3dtv.at Stereo Transformation" filter.

Thanks again for your time and help, its too bad I can't run that mode on MediaPortal, that said the plugin is indeed amazing even as it is. The thing is I can't afford to invest in a 3D capable TV which would run without the need to pageflipping.

Happy Holidays

 

[ScRePt]

Re: [PoC - Update 2010/09/12] MP3D - Render 3D via MediaPortal!

Ok, page-flipping probably renders left/right images in full screen so that no 3d gfx card or 3d TV is required.
Even so, you'll need some 3d shutter glasses to be sync-ed to the renderer (aka 3dtv.at Stereo Renderer). How do you do that from the Stereo Player?

You could try changing the video renderer of MediaPortal to 3dtv.at Stereo Renderer and see if that does not crash MP and let me know.

As far as why MP crashes always ... that could be my bug. Try removing the global values completely (set to <globalvalues /> and not to <globalvalues>bla bla bla</globalvalues>)

 

[aasoror]

Re: [PoC - Update 2010/09/12] MP3D - Render 3D via MediaPortal!

Ok, page-flipping probably renders left/right images in full screen so that no 3d gfx card or 3d TV is required.
Even so, you'll need some 3d shutter glasses to be sync-ed to the renderer (aka 3dtv.at Stereo Renderer). How do you do that from the Stereo Player?

You could try changing the video renderer of MediaPortal to 3dtv.at Stereo Renderer and see if that does not crash MP and let me know.

As far as why MP crashes always ... that could be my bug. Try removing the global values completely (set to <globalvalues /> and not to <globalvalues>bla bla bla</globalvalues>)

ok, I am sorry if I wasn't clear about software page flipping, you do need the 3d shutter glasses to see the 3D effect, what I meant to say software page flipping doesn't require the glasses to be plugged in an turned on for it render the 3D images (thats why I said you could even try it on your PC with no need for the glasses to present), it wont crash or complain about the missing glasses it will just render the image correctly but you wont be able to observe the 3D effect without the shutter glasses but the PC wont know whether or not you have the glasses on.

here is couple of updates:
- adding the "3dtv.at Stereo Renderer" to the "video post processing" section doesn't work, apparently it takes precedence when MP starts and the videos wont playback, and because I can't get it to playback I cant even run your plugin. Am I adding the filter in the right place ? According to Stereoscopic Player the filters running in the following order
"Video Decoder filter (varies by encoding) -> Audio Decoder filter (varies by encoding) -> 3dtv.at Stereo Transformation filter ->Direct Sound Audio Renderer -> 3dtv.at Stereo Renderer.
So apparently I need to figure out a way to add the Stereo Renderer ontop of the filter stack.

-clearing the globalvalues actually enabled me to run the plugin after it crashed, and notably for the first time I was able to see "softpageflipping" setting when cycling between output modes, that said once softpageflipping is chosen the plugin crashes (this is one step further than the prior crashes).

Thank you again, please let me know if I can be of further help.

 

[lordgregomen]

Re: [PoC - Update 2010/09/12] MP3D - Render 3D via MediaPortal!

Hi guy.

First of all, i want to thanks you verry mutch, because you did a good work, and you spent many times to help us, it s really really nice.

I post sadly for a problem with the plugin.

My hardware: PC with nvidia card GT240X. 3Dvision kit from nvidia. and finally there is a Acer videoprojector H5360.
with the player stereoscopic, the movies works perfectly from the computer, like with the nvidia player. But with the plugin, i'm on the good options, bottom / under for images, and stereoscopic on output, the image looks like ok, but my nvidia glasses dosent do the 3D.

Can you help me brother ?

Thx u, and forgive me for my fuk.. bad english, I'm French and you know that we are the weakest country of the entire world in english spoke lol .


Ps i try this and when i activate the special nvidia, my movies stop immediatly, and i can"t load another movie :/

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Originally Posted by ScRePt
UNINSTALL the plug-in and INSTALL it. Before installation, make sure the "bad" xml was removed.
Yeah that's exactly what I did. twice. Uninstall, delete the xml file, reinstall. No xml file. Weird hey? Beats me. I imagine there must be something left behind somewhere that tells installation process to NOT create the xml file. Anyway,... so easiest thing I could think of doing is asking for a copy of xml file... and if it had nvidia enabled for me (cause I spent at least an hour trying to do that) that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
I'm not sure why it does not re-create it. It does recreate it to me (The xml is in C:\ProgramData\Team MediaPortal\MediaPortal\MP3D.xml)

Anyway, since it's practically impossible for u to create the menus and all in the xml, please find attached the modified xml and the related translations file. There is a new context sub-menu named "Special ... " in "output formats". The only option there is "NVIDIA". Also you can cycle to that output format from the quick menu.

Please note: I am providing this for your convenience. I am not supporting it because It crashes my pc since I do not have the NVIDIA hardware. Also, if you have the "remember output format" option on, it will crash every time you open the same video ...
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MP3D.xml (135.7 KB, 8 views)
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