Hauppuge wintv-hvr 1250 (2 Viewers)

[mm1352000]

Hi again illutian

But, now that I have the TV Server running and the Client running all the channels(?) are 'Unknown' and are reported as scrambled.

This seems to be an issue with cable channels. Unless Time Warner puts the details in the PSIP, we don't get names or proper details for them. Do any of the channels have green markers next to them? Those would be the ones that are "in-the-clear" (not scrambled). The ones with red markers are scrambled. You can manually change the channels from scrambled to free if you want to test whether they're really scrambled, but usually TV Server does a reasonable job at getting that info right. To have a fiddle:
1. Go to the TV channel list in TV Server configuration.
2. Select a channel.
3. Click "edit".
4. Select the row in the middle area of the popup.
5. Click "OK".
6. Tick "free to air".
7. Click OK and OK again.
8. Try to preview.

I did install the SoftMCE on the TV Server. And I've installed the WebEPG Plugin.

Those will not make a difference to scrambled/clear detection.

mm

 

[illutian]

Some of the channels come in, but are upside down...don't know how to fix it since the TV Server doesn't have a codec's tab, like the client


Found similar issue: https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/video-upside.107231/

And it looks like I'll have to go through each of the 293 channels, to find the SyFy and Cartoon Network (for Adult Swim) channels.

And...it appears channel 29 (Cartoon Network) and channel 62 (SyFy) are scrambled....fuck.

Should also mention that on the client all the channels have 'no data available' for the time slots



On a slightly good news, I can stream the channels that aren't scrambled to the client

 

[mm1352000]

Hi again

Some of the channels come in, but are upside down...don't know how to fix it since the TV Server doesn't have a codec's tab, like the client

So this is in the "preview" window in TV Server configuration, yes?
Maybe I'm missing something here but usually preview is only used for testing. Video on the client should be fine as long as you pick your codecs correctly at that end. If you really need to sort the preview out then...
...assuming that the problem is with codecs like in the other thread you found, you can control which codec TV Server preview uses by managing the DirectShow "merit" of the codecs installed on your PC. "Merit" is like a priority or preference weighting; all codecs have one. You want to bump the priority up the codecs that you prefer to use and down for the codecs that you don't want to be used. Software like -->filmerit<-- can be used to do that (guide - unfortunately in French, but you can follow the pictures...).

And it looks like I'll have to go through each of the 293 channels, to find the SyFy and Cartoon Network (for Adult Swim) channels.

I wouldn't have thought such channels would be free.

Should also mention that on the client all the channels have 'no data available' for the time slots

That is where WebEPG is meant to come in. How far did you get with configuring that?

On a slightly good news, I can stream the channels that aren't scrambled to the client

 

[illutian]

Ya, the Client flips it rightside up.

So...MediaPortal doesn't do pay to watch channels (ie the channels that require a cable box, but not the Pay Per View)?

WebEPG plugin installed

General->
Grab Days: 14
Write program to: TV Server database
-Delete old programs before import

Auto Mapping->
Country: United States

Grabber status report->
Last grab run at: 7/11/2010 12:09:39 PM
Total channels imported: 0
Total programs imported: 0
Grab status: Finished grabbing

Nothing done in TV or Radio Mappings tabs, Schedule all days picked for 00:00 (12AM).

 

[RonD]

Hi illutian,

you need to customize the imdb_com grabber file with your local channel info. I have an updated grabber file and wrote a wiki page with setup info. Take a look at the following message in the WebEPG forum. I hope this helps.

https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/...om-grabber-file-adds-subtitle-support.108360/

 

[mm1352000]

Hi again illutian

So...MediaPortal doesn't do pay to watch channels (ie the channels that require a cable box, but not the Pay Per View)?

Yes, it does... but it can't unless MP knows about the subscriptions that you have access to.
Outside of the US people use things called CAMs (which are very much like a CableCard) to allow them to view encrypted channels that are available with their subscription.
There is also another way but discussion of that is forbidden on this forum as it is illegal (or at least against provider Ts & Cs) in many countries.

So in summary you would need something additional to get encrypted channels to work. This is the same as with any other software.
Does your Time Warner cable box have a smartcard or CableCard that you have to put in, or does it "just work"?

mm

 

[illutian]

Hi again illutian

So...MediaPortal doesn't do pay to watch channels (ie the channels that require a cable box, but not the Pay Per View)?

Yes, it does... but it can't unless MP knows about the subscriptions that you have access to.
Outside of the US people use things called CAMs (which are very much like a CableCard) to allow them to view encrypted channels that are available with their subscription.
There is also another way but discussion of that is forbidden on this forum as it is illegal (or at least against provider Ts & Cs) in many countries.

So in summary you would need something additional to get encrypted channels to work. This is the same as with any other software.
Does your Time Warner cable box have a smartcard or CableCard that you have to put in, or does it "just work"?

mm

I really have no idea, I don't have a TV Set box, the house was wired for cable and the decryption box (to view ANY cable channel) is outside, with the line going straight up to the pole. Inside the main line (aka Pole Line) was split, one split went to TVs, the other to the Cable Router. The TV Split was then split 3-way + 1-input for the three TVs. One of those lines now goes into the TV Tuner (was cheaper than buying a new TV! ).

I don't understand how Microsoft gives me the ability to watch any channel that my TV could, but MP doesn't...I mean, we're talking Microsoft, the company that charges for just about every computer 'convenience'.

 

[mm1352000]

Hi again

I really have no idea, I don't have a TV Set box, the house was wired for cable and the decryption box (to view ANY cable channel) is outside, with the line going straight up to the pole. Inside the main line (aka Pole Line) was split, one split went to TVs, the other to the Cable Router. The TV Split was then split 3-way + 1-input for the three TVs. One of those lines now goes into the TV Tuner (was cheaper than buying a new TV! ).

Ahhh, I see. So by "cable box" you meant the box outside I guess. This is not a setup that I am familiar with at all.
Is it possible that box is a tuning adapter?
http://www.timewarnercable.com/Midwest/site.faqs/digitalcab/switcheddi/what-is-a-tuning-adapter

I don't understand how Microsoft gives me the ability to watch any channel that my TV could, but MP doesn't...I mean, we're talking Microsoft, the company that charges for just about every computer 'convenience'.

In this case MS actually has a *huge* advantage over MP. Being open source, MP allows a lot of things the WMC doesn't necessarily allow (or want to allow)... and if MP doesn't do something, any developer could come along, look at the source code, and implement what they want MP to do. Content owners really don't like this because it means that people could (for example) record as much content as they like, when they like, and transcode it, edit it etc. etc. etc.. Hence the reason for CableCard and encryption in general. CableCard is supported on PCs with special tuners like the Ceton InfiniTV and the HDHomeRun Prime. Those tuners are only fully operational in WMC, simply because WMC supports the required DRM. MP doesn't support DRM. So in that sense, Microsoft wins...

In your case I'm not sure whether DRM applies as I'm not familiar with the cable setup that you have. Do you know anything more about it?

mm

 

[illutian]

As I understand it, the signal is sent out encrypted from TW's transmission substation and the boxes will decrypt it. It apparently will work with any TV with a Cable Jack (RJ-4 or 6 connector). Not sure why some of the stations would come through.....because the entire signal to this house is supposedly encrypted to prevent unwanted viewing.....unless you have a 'black box' .

And I won't even bother asking TW, because they have a service to stream your TV Lineup (ie the channel service your subbed to) through your Internet. Think it's like $50/mo, so I doubt they'd tell me how to...even though I just want to Stream via LAN and not even touch their network.


I mean for christ's sake, they want to CHARGE people to hook up more than FIVE wireless devices....herp derp, get a wireless router, but most don't know that (doubt they allocate 5 internal IPs to you)

 

[mm1352000]

Hi again

Thanks for the info. Did you find that manually changing any of the channels from encrypted to FTA made any difference?

mm