Help us to nail down the general problems with some technotrend cards (3 Viewers)

[Ruud]

Tried some more channel scanning and now I get a picture at least on some scrambled channels, but it´s not really a good picture - see attachment. I also attached the log files. Did clean ones here which means, that I delete the old logs, startet up MP, switched to a FTA channel and then to a scrambled channel, before I left MP again. As far as I can see it looks like some continuitiy problem.

edit: Updated my Alphacrypt Classic to V3.19 today - no changes.

Hi Olly666,

I see the same 'artifacts' as seen in your picture on my second HTPC. In my case it is due to a slower GPU gforce 6200, on my main client I have a gforce 8500 and I don't have these artifacts.
So maybe this is client related and not related to your TT?

just my thoughts...

regards,
Ruud.

 

[Ruud]

Only have one problem that I cannot reproduce at will.... My tv server is on 24/7 as it is also used for other purposes, every morning I have to restart the tv service in order for the TT to work. I get a time out on PMT (set timeout to 45, no result) and it starts using my analog cards as source.

Hello,

Please find below a part of my TV.log where you can see that on april 30th everything works and on may 1st I get a "IsCamReady:False"

@Morpheus: if this is related to this: [post=413648]technotrend-s2-3200-ci-no-recording-after-few-days-ci-error-setprogram-failed[/post] then I volunteer to test

regards,
Ruud

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2009-04-30 22:19:49.031250 [14]: dvb:StopGraph - conditionalAccess.AllowedToStopGraph = true
2009-04-30 22:19:49.046875 [14]: user:tvclient02 remove
2009-04-30 22:19:49.046875 [14]: Controller:Timeshifting stopped on card:2
2009-04-30 22:19:49.046875 [14]: RTSP: remove stream stream2.0
2009-04-30 22:19:49.390625 [Channel state thread]: Controller: DoSetChannelStates for 138 channels
2009-05-01 07:28:01.625000 [14]: Controller: StartTimeShifting Radio 538 7
2009-05-01 07:28:01.625000 [14]: Controller: find free card for channel Radio 538
2009-05-01 07:28:01.625000 [14]: Controller:   got 2 tuning details for Radio 538
2009-05-01 07:28:01.640625 [14]: Controller:   channel #1 radio:Radio 538 Freq:97099998 Channel:4 Country:The Netherlands Tuner:Cable Video:Tuner Audio:Automatic 
2009-05-01 07:28:01.640625 [14]: Controller:    card:1 type:DvbT cannot tune to channel
2009-05-01 07:28:01.656250 [14]: Controller:    card:2 type:DvbC cannot tune to channel
2009-05-01 07:28:01.671875 [14]: Controller:    card:3 type:Analog is available priority:3 #users:0 same transponder:False
2009-05-01 07:28:01.671875 [14]: Controller:    card:4 type:Analog cannot tune to channel
2009-05-01 07:28:01.687500 [14]: Controller:    card:5 type:RadioWebStream cannot tune to channel
2009-05-01 07:28:01.687500 [14]: Controller:   channel #2 DVBC:radio:Ziggo Radio 538 Freq:396000 ONID:500 TSID:9 SID:9052 PMT:0x8E0 FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:6875 Modulation:Mod64Qam 
2009-05-01 07:28:01.703125 [14]: Controller:    card:1 type:DvbT cannot tune to channel
2009-05-01 07:28:01.718750 [14]: Controller:    card:2 type:DvbC is available priority:5 #users:0 same transponder:False
2009-05-01 07:28:01.734375 [14]: Controller:    card:4 type:Analog cannot tune to channel
2009-05-01 07:28:01.734375 [14]: Controller:    card:5 type:RadioWebStream cannot tune to channel
2009-05-01 07:28:01.734375 [14]: Controller: found 2 available
2009-05-01 07:28:01.750000 [14]: card: CardTune 2 Radio 538 tvclient01:2:-1
2009-05-01 07:28:01.750000 [14]: card: Tune 2 to Radio 538
2009-05-01 07:28:01.750000 [14]: card: user: tvclient01:2:-1 tune DVBC:radio:Ziggo Radio 538 Freq:396000 ONID:500 TSID:9 SID:9052 PMT:0x8E0 FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:6875 Modulation:Mod64Qam
2009-05-01 07:28:01.781250 [14]: dvbc: Tune:DVBC:radio:Ziggo Radio 538 Freq:396000 ONID:500 TSID:9 SID:9052 PMT:0x8E0 FTA:False LCN:10000 SymbolRate:6875 Modulation:Mod64Qam
2009-05-01 07:28:01.796875 [14]: dvb:Submiting tunerequest Channel:Radio 538 subChannel:-1 
2009-05-01 07:28:01.796875 [14]: dvb:Getting new subchannel
2009-05-01 07:28:01.796875 [14]: dvb:GetNewSubChannel:0 #0
2009-05-01 07:28:01.796875 [14]: TvDvbChannel ctor new subchIndex:0
2009-05-01 07:28:01.796875 [14]: dvb:Submit tunerequest size:1 new:0
2009-05-01 07:28:01.796875 [14]: subch:0 OnBeforeTune
2009-05-01 07:28:01.812500 [14]: dvb:Submit tunerequest calling put_TuneRequest
2009-05-01 07:28:02.812500 [14]: dvb:Submit tunerequest done calling put_TuneRequest
2009-05-01 07:28:02.812500 [14]: subch:0 OnAfterTune
2009-05-01 07:28:02.812500 [14]: dvb:  LockedInOnSignal ok
2009-05-01 07:28:02.812500 [14]: subch:0 OnGraphStart
2009-05-01 07:28:02.812500 [14]: subch:0 SetupPmtGrabber:pid 8E0 sid:235C
2009-05-01 07:28:02.812500 [14]: subch:0 set pmt grabber pmt:8E0 sid:235C
2009-05-01 07:28:02.828125 [14]: WaitForPMT: Waiting for PMT.
2009-05-01 07:28:02.906250 [13]: subch:0 OnPMTReceived() True
2009-05-01 07:28:02.906250 [14]: WaitForPMT: Found PMT after 0.078125 seconds.
2009-05-01 07:28:02.906250 [14]: subch:0 SendPmt:235C 235C FFFFFFFF 10
2009-05-01 07:28:02.921875 [14]: Decode pmt
2009-05-01 07:28:02.921875 [14]: descr1 len:6 9 4 6 4 ef d2 
2009-05-01 07:28:02.921875 [14]: descr1 len:6 9 4 6 2 f3 ba 
2009-05-01 07:28:02.921875 [14]: Set descriptor data with length 6
2009-05-01 07:28:02.921875 [14]: subch:0 SendPMT version:16 len:36 9052
2009-05-01 07:28:02.921875 [14]: TechnoTrend IsCamReady(): IsCamPresent:True,[B] IsCamReady:False[/B]
2009-05-01 07:28:02.937500 [14]: subch:0 SendPmt failed cam flags:False
2009-05-01 07:28:05.937500 [14]: subch:0 SendPmt:235C 235C FFFFFFFF 10
2009-05-01 07:28:05.937500 [14]: Decode pmt
2009-05-01 07:28:05.937500 [14]: descr1 len:6 9 4 6 4 ef d2 
2009-05-01 07:28:05.937500 [14]: descr1 len:6 9 4 6 2 f3 ba 
2009-05-01 07:28:05.937500 [14]: Set descriptor data with length 6
2009-05-01 07:28:05.937500 [14]: subch:0 SendPMT version:16 len:36 9052
2009-05-01 07:28:05.953125 [14]: TechnoTrend IsCamReady(): IsCamPresent:False, [B]IsCamReady:False[/B]
2009-05-01 07:28:05.953125 [14]: subch:0 cam flags:False
2009-05-01 07:28:05.953125 [14]: subch:0 SetMpegPidMapping
2009-05-01 07:28:05.953125 [14]: subch:0  pid:59 pcr
2009-05-01 07:28:05.953125 [14]: subch:0  pid:8E0 pmt
2009-05-01 07:28:05.953125 [14]: subch:0  pid:E6 audio lang:dut type:MPEG-2
2009-05-01 07:28:05.953125 [14]: subch:0    map pid:E6 audio lang:dut type:MPEG-2
2009-05-01 07:28:05.953125 [14]: subch:0 stop tif
2009-05-01 07:28:05.968750 [14]: WaitForPMT: sending PMT to CAM took 3.0625 seconds.
2009-05-01 07:28:05.984375 [14]: card: Tuner locked: True
2009-05-01 07:28:05.984375 [14]: **************************************************
2009-05-01 07:28:05.984375 [14]: ***** SIGNAL LEVEL: 59, SIGNAL QUALITY: 100 *****
2009-05-01 07:28:05.984375 [14]: **************************************************
2009-05-01 07:28:05.984375 [14]: card: tuned user: tvclient01 subchannel: 0
2009-05-01 07:28:05.984375 [14]: user:tvclient01 add
2009-05-01 07:28:06.000000 [14]: card2:tvclient01 2 0
2009-05-01 07:28:06.000000 [14]: Controller: tvclient01 2 0
2009-05-01 07:28:06.000000 [14]: control2:tvclient01 2 0
2009-05-01 07:28:06.000000 [14]: Controller: delete timeshift files T:\\live2-0.ts
2009-05-01 07:28:06.015625 [14]: Controller:   delete T:\live2-0.ts.tsbuffer
2009-05-01 07:28:06.015625 [14]: Controller:   delete T:\live2-0.ts.tsbuffer1.ts
2009-05-01 07:28:06.046875 [14]: card: StartTimeShifting 2 T:\\live2-0.ts 
2009-05-01 07:28:06.046875 [14]: card: CAM enabled : True
2009-05-01 07:28:06.046875 [14]: subch:0 SetTimeShiftFileName:T:\\live2-0.ts
2009-05-01 07:28:06.046875 [14]: Set video / audio observer
2009-05-01 07:28:06.062500 [14]: subch:0 SetTimeShiftFileName fill in pids
2009-05-01 07:28:06.062500 [14]: subch:0-0 tswriter StartTimeshifting...
2009-05-01 07:28:06.078125 [14]: card: WaitForTimeShiftFile - waiting _eventAudio
2009-05-01 07:28:31.421875 [SetupTv]: ---- SetupTv v1.0.1.22244 is starting up on Windows XP (Service Pack 3) ----
2009-05-01 07:28:31.421875 [SetupTv]: ---- check connection with database ----
2009-05-01 07:28:32.078125 [SetupTv]: ---- check if database needs to be updated/created ----
2009-05-01 07:28:32.109375 [SetupTv]: ---- upgrade database schema ----
2009-05-01 07:28:32.125000 [SetupTv]: ---- check if tvservice is running ----
2009-05-01 07:28:36.078125 [14]: card: WaitForTimeShiftFile - no audio was found after 30 seconds
2009-05-01 07:28:36.078125 [14]: card: WaitForTimeShiftFile - audio stream is scrambled
2009-05-01 07:28:36.078125 [14]: card USB 2.0 BDA DVB-C Tuner: StopTimeShifting user:tvclient01 sub:0
2009-05-01 07:28:36.093750 [14]: card: StopTimeShifting user:tvclient01 sub:0
2009-05-01 07:28:36.093750 [14]: card not IDLE - freeing subch: 0
2009-05-01 07:28:36.093750 [14]: subch:0-0 tswriter StopTimeshifting...
2009-05-01 07:28:36.093750 [14]: tvcard:FreeSubChannel: subchannels count 1 subch#0 keep graph=False
2009-05-01 07:28:36.109375 [14]: DVB subch:0 Decompose()
2009-05-01 07:28:36.109375 [14]: FreeSubChannel CA: freeing sub channel : 0
2009-05-01 07:28:36.109375 [14]: tvcard:FreeSubChannel : no subchannels present, stopping graph
2009-05-01 07:28:36.109375 [14]: dvb:StopGraph called
2009-05-01 07:28:36.109375 [14]: tvcard:FreeAllSubChannels:
2009-05-01 07:28:36.125000 [14]: dvb:StopGraph - conditionalAccess.AllowedToStopGraph = true
2009-05-01 07:28:36.125000 [14]: user:tvclient01 remove
2009-05-01 07:28:36.125000 [14]: Controller: Timeshifting failed, lets try next available card.
2009-05-01 07:28:36.125000 [14]: card: CardTune 3 Radio 538 tvclient01:3:-1
2009-05-01 07:28:36.125000 [14]: card: Tune 3 to Radio 538
2009-05-01 07:28:36.140625 [14]: card: user: tvclient01:3:-1 tune radio:Radio 538 Freq:97099998 Channel:4 Country:The Netherlands Tuner:Cable Video:Tuner Audio:Automatic
2009-05-01 07:28:36.187500 [14]: analog:  Tune:radio:Radio 538 Freq:97099998 Channel:4 Country:The Netherlands Tuner:Cable Video:Tuner Audio:Automatic
2009-05-01 07:28:36.187500 [14]: analog:GetNewSubChannel:0 #0
2009-05-01 07:28:36.203125 [14]: analog subch:0 OnBeforeTune
2009-05-01 07:28:36.203125 [14]: analog:  set to FM radio
2009-05-01 07:28:36.437500 [14]: Analog: Tuned to country:31 video:97099998 Hz audio:97099998 Hz locked:True
2009-05-01 07:28:36.859375 [14]: analog subch:0 OnAfterTune
2009-05-01 07:28:36.859375 [14]: analog subch:0 OnGraphStart
2009-05-01 07:28:36.875000 [14]: analog: RunGraph
2009-05-01 07:28:37.890625 [6]: Controller: epg stop
2009-05-01 07:28:38.671875 [14]: analog: RunGraph succeeded
2009-05-01 07:28:38.671875 [14]: analog:  LockedInOnSignal ok
2009-05-01 07:28:38.671875 [14]: analog subch:0 OnGraphStarted
2009-05-01 07:28:38.687500 [14]: analog: Update pin video: disconnect
2009-05-01 07:28:38.687500 [14]: card: Tuner locked: True
2009-05-01 07:28:38.687500 [14]: **************************************************
2009-05-01 07:28:38.703125 [14]: ***** SIGNAL LEVEL: 100, SIGNAL QUALITY: 100 *****
2009-05-01 07:28:38.703125 [14]: **************************************************
2009-05-01 07:28:38.703125 [14]: card: tuned user: tvclient01 subchannel: 0
2009-05-01 07:28:38.703125 [14]: user:tvclient01 add
2009-05-01 07:28:38.703125 [14]: card2:tvclient01 3 0
2009-05-01 07:28:38.703125 [14]: Controller: tvclient01 3 0
2009-05-01 07:28:38.718750 [14]: control2:tvclient01 3 0
2009-05-01 07:28:38.718750 [14]: Controller: delete timeshift files T:\\live3-0.ts
2009-05-01 07:28:38.734375 [14]: card: StartTimeShifting 3 T:\\live3-0.ts 
2009-05-01 07:28:38.734375 [14]: card: CAM enabled : False
2009-05-01 07:28:38.750000 [14]: analog: Encoder mode setting to ConstantBitRate
2009-05-01 07:28:38.765625 [14]: analog: Encoder mode set to ConstantBitRate
2009-05-01 07:28:38.765625 [14]: analog: Encoder BitRate setting to Default
2009-05-01 07:28:38.765625 [14]: analog: Encoder BitRate Min 2500000 Max 8500000 Delta 1
2009-05-01 07:28:38.781250 [14]: analog: Encoder BitRate set to 4000000
2009-05-01 07:28:38.781250 [14]: analog:SetTimeShiftFileName:T:\\live3-0.ts
2009-05-01 07:28:38.781250 [14]: analog:SetTimeShiftFileName: uses .ts
2009-05-01 07:28:38.796875 [14]: card: WaitForTimeShiftFile - waiting _eventAudio
2009-05-01 07:28:40.078125 [15]: PID seen - type = Audio
2009-05-01 07:28:40.078125 [15]: audioVideoEventHandler Audio
2009-05-01 07:28:40.078125 [15]: PID seen - type = Video
2009-05-01 07:28:40.078125 [14]: card: WaitForTimeShiftFile - audio is seen after 1.28125 seconds
2009-05-01 07:28:40.078125 [15]: audioVideoEventHandler Video
2009-05-01 07:28:40.093750 [14]: user:tvclient01 card:3 sub:0 add stream:T:\\live3-0.ts.tsbuffer
2009-05-01 07:28:40.093750 [14]: RTSP: add stream stream3.0 file:T:\\live3-0.ts.tsbuffer
2009-05-01 07:28:40.109375 [14]: Controller: StartTimeShifting started on card:3 to T:\\live3-0.ts.tsbuffer
2009-05-01 07:28:40.109375 [Channel state thread]: Controller: DoSetChannelStates for 138 channels
.......

 

[morpheus_xx]

I cant tell you if it's related. I would look on tswriter.log. But it could be.

So please feel free to test my build from other thread. To be sure, take a backup of your current installation first An uninstall should not be needed.

 

[Olly666]

Hi all again!

Using the new hardware at least runs MP smoother. Unfortunately I still got problems with scrambled channels, but as it seems they are MPEG-2 codec related. When I use MPV or DScaler, I will get those artefacts as seen on the picture I posted earlier in this thread, but a good sound. When I try to user PowerDVD6, the screen stays black and there´s no sound. And finally, when I use ReelSoft MPEG-2 Codec, the first frame appears and then it got stuck with no sound.

Any ideas for a codec to use / try?


Regards,
Olly

Edit : Tried Elecard WMP 3.7 too... same stuff. Tried Ramdisk for Timeshifting... same stuff.

 

[Ruud]

Hi all again!

Using the new hardware at least runs MP smoother. Unfortunately I still got problems with scrambled channels, but as it seems they are MPEG-2 codec related. When I use MPV or DScaler, I will get those artefacts as seen on the picture I posted earlier in this thread, but a good sound. When I try to user PowerDVD6, the screen stays black and there´s no sound. And finally, when I use ReelSoft MPEG-2 Codec, the first frame appears and then it got stuck with no sound.

Any ideas for a codec to use / try?


Regards,
Olly

Edit : Tried Elecard WMP 3.7 too... same stuff. Tried Ramdisk for Timeshifting... same stuff.

Hi Olly666,

I use SAF (as found on this forum) in combination with powerDVD 9. This works currently for me for all channels (and movies).
Just a note of advice: when installing and deinstalling codecs, please ensure that you also use filmerit to really clean up the 'mess' these deinstalled /corrupted filters leave behind. My experience is that filmerit is a must have to get a stable configuration when it comes to codecs.

Part of the correct working is also related to video card and driver (also lots of info can be found on this forum / in the SAF thread).

good luck,
Ruud.

Just an update to this thread: been running TVServer now for 5 days full time, restart via scheduled services on a daily basis the tvservice and disabled 'preload' of the tv tuners in the tvsetup..... still running without error!

 

[Olly666]

Hi Ruud!

Thanks for the info - will try PDVD9 and SAF (together with filmerit). I don´t believe it´s the vga because I tested 8600GS, 7600GS, 6200GT and some more already. Actually non-scrambled channels run as smooth as a warm knife through butter.

Will report asap.


Best regards,
Olly

 

[morpheus_xx]

Hi,

it's nice that there is support on filter issues

But I suggest to keep this thread on "real" technotrend related issues, and start a new thread for other problems...

Morpheus

 

[Ruud]

Am I scrambled.....

Hi,

not sure if this is a 'real' TT issue or my provider playing me....
Al of a sudden and out of the Blue my TT stopped working on scrambled channels. No changes to setup....

all logs are attached.

this part of TsWriter.Log says it all, but it cannot be true (or my provider is playing me.....)

08-05-2009 06:45:04.859 TechnoTrend:OnDisplayList slot:0 items:5 len:92
08-05-2009 06:45:04.859 TechnoTrend  —AlphaCrypt
08-05-2009 06:45:04.859 TechnoTrend   
08-05-2009 06:45:04.859 TechnoTrend  Drücken Sie OK 
08-05-2009 06:45:04.859 TechnoTrend  Sie haben keine Berechtigung
08-05-2009 06:45:04.859 TechnoTrend  dieses Programm zu empfangen !
08-05-2009 06:45:04.859 TechnoTrend  
08-05-2009 06:45:13.703 TechnoTrend:CI_OnSwitchOsdOff slot:0

Just te be sure, this is a normal channel that is part of the base digital package (i.o.w. no sprts or film channel that you need additional subscription for.....)

Hope somebody can point me out.

What I further notices is that all my tv cards including the TT are inaccessable via tvsetup: the just show the correct header on screen but the contents where you can search your channels etc is not dispayed (previous screen is displyed instead).
I have had that before and the only remedy was a complete reinstall.... maybe this has something to do with it?

regards and thanks,
Ruud.

 

[morpheus_xx]

Those messages are usually sent back by the CAM when you try to descramble a channel without valid subscription (i.e. after channel scan and trying to grab all epg).

Why you get those, I can't really tell you. If it's not caused by epg grabber, maybe some issue with your subscription? You may try removing/reinserting CAM to reset CA

 

[Ruud]

Oeps... false alarm

Those messages are usually sent back by the CAM when you try to descramble a channel without valid subscription (i.e. after channel scan and trying to grab all epg).

Why you get those, I can't really tell you. If it's not caused by epg grabber, maybe some issue with your subscription? You may try removing/reinserting CAM to reset CA

Hi,

just did some test with the provided DVB appliance from the provider. I get a subscription error. As it turns out now, I had only a two week preview and the smart card needed registration. Because I already have this smart-card lying around for 1,5 year I obviously didn't know any more that I had to register.............

So registration just posted, waiting for reactivation of the smartcard!

Thank,
Ruud.