NEW: Moving Pictures 0.6.4 (2 Viewers)
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Ok, but what about the scenario where a scene rip of a movie, say one taken by a handheld camera in a movie theatre, is downloaded, and the RIAA or MPAA or whatever then use the server's logs to identify who uploaded that specific file hash? Couldn't it be stated that you couldn't have that hash key unless you had that illegal copy of the movie, therefore it could be used as evidence?
And if the case was built that this person had the hash for dozens of movies that could only be scene / screener rips, couldn't that be used to build a case? Stranger things are already used as evidence by these guys.
I don't see this approach as similar to that used by IMDB or the moviedb or anything - on those sites you're just asking for the movie's title, which could mean you have the DVD, you've saved it from your TIVO, you're just interested and don't own it, or you're just browsing the website's collection. It could be shown that it's extremely unlikely that you just happen to have the unique hash for a known R4 or DVD Screener rip. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that a good lawyer could show that the unique hash is a fingerprint and direct evidence that the software running on the accused's PC must have been in contact with the illegal file - especially if the software is opensource and can be examined to demonstrate that the hash could only have come from a particular source.
I just think it's worth people understanding that these possibilities exist, and thus any plug-in should be optional.
And if the case was built that this person had the hash for dozens of movies that could only be scene / screener rips, couldn't that be used to build a case? Stranger things are already used as evidence by these guys.
I don't see this approach as similar to that used by IMDB or the moviedb or anything - on those sites you're just asking for the movie's title, which could mean you have the DVD, you've saved it from your TIVO, you're just interested and don't own it, or you're just browsing the website's collection. It could be shown that it's extremely unlikely that you just happen to have the unique hash for a known R4 or DVD Screener rip. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that a good lawyer could show that the unique hash is a fingerprint and direct evidence that the software running on the accused's PC must have been in contact with the illegal file - especially if the software is opensource and can be examined to demonstrate that the hash could only have come from a particular source.
I just think it's worth people understanding that these possibilities exist, and thus any plug-in should be optional.
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Moving Pictures 0.7 will have an installer of some sort. Either an MPI or MSI (Windows Installer). Although we are still in Beta and 0.6 is really intended for cutting edge users. So it is kind of assumed everyone can copy a DLL.
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We will need much more information than that to help you. But this is not even the appropriate place to file a bug report either, this is the announcement thread for 0.6.4.
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I am going to lock this thread. If anyone has a question or bug report, search the forum to make sure it has not already been answered, then create a new thread as needed.
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