One of two TT S2-3200 card's sometimes shows "No signal" (1 Viewer)

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    Oh, that sounds good. I didn't expect a possible solution so fast.
     

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    Guys can you do that :

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    stop tvservice manually
    suspend
    resume
    start tvservice manually
    then look at how the cards behave in setuptv.

    Thanks :)
     

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    could u try this on clean booted PC where the TT cards are working:

    1) verify that both cards still work in setuptv.
    2) manually stop tvservice => cmd prompt type: 'net stop tvservice'
    3) suspend PC
    4) resume PC
    5) manually start tvservice => cmd prompt type: 'net start tvservice'
    6) verify that both cards still work in setuptv.

    another interesting thing to test could be:
    disable CAM's on both cards in setuptv.
    now try and see how the cards behave when u have done the suspend-resume cycle.
    obvioulsy u have to tune FTA channels for the test.

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    I am using two cards and have the same problem. I am using a Pinnacle PCTV DVB-S2 card and a Hauppauge Nova T-500 DVB-T card, both with twin tuners. I am well aware of the problems with initialising the Nova card. The two Pinnacle tuners (tvservice id 2 & 3) have the highest priority followed by the Hauppauge (id 7 & 8).
    When my PC is clean booted then all four tuners work OK, if it resumes from S3 (sleep) then tuners 2, 7 & 8 are all OK but tuner 3 refuses to work until the PC is rebooted.
    I have followed gibman's test detailed above and report the following:

    1a) Clean boot PC - OK
    1b) verify that both cards still work in setuptv. - YES
    2) manually stop tvservice => cmd prompt type: 'net stop tvservice' - OK
    3) suspend PC - OK
    4) resume PC - OK
    5) manually start tvservice => cmd prompt type: 'net start tvservice' - OK
    6) verify that both cards still work in setuptv. - NO, tuners 2, 7 & 8 are OK, tuner 3 has no signal.

    I have tried setting "Reinitialize TV controller on wake up" in PowerScheduler++ but doesn't help.

    I am willing to carry out further tests / post logs etc to try and bottom out this problem.

    --peter
     

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    I am using two cards and have the same problem. I am using a Pinnacle PCTV DVB-S2 card and a Hauppauge Nova T-500 DVB-T card, both with twin tuners. I am well aware of the problems with initialising the Nova card. The two Pinnacle tuners (tvservice id 2 & 3) have the highest priority followed by the Hauppauge (id 7 & 8).
    When my PC is clean booted then all four tuners work OK, if it resumes from S3 (sleep) then tuners 2, 7 & 8 are all OK but tuner 3 refuses to work until the PC is rebooted.
    I have followed gibman's test detailed above and report the following:

    1a) Clean boot PC - OK
    1b) verify that both cards still work in setuptv. - YES
    2) manually stop tvservice => cmd prompt type: 'net stop tvservice' - OK
    3) suspend PC - OK
    4) resume PC - OK
    5) manually start tvservice => cmd prompt type: 'net start tvservice' - OK
    6) verify that both cards still work in setuptv. - NO, tuners 2, 7 & 8 are OK, tuner 3 has no signal.

    I have tried setting "Reinitialize TV controller on wake up" in PowerScheduler++ but doesn't help.

    I am willing to carry out further tests / post logs etc to try and bottom out this problem.

    --peter

    thx for testing...

    ok.. could try add an extra step between 4 and 5.. lets call it 4a.

    4a) open device manager and disable the problematic card, then enable the card again.
    if you don't know which card/driver, then just disable all the dvb cards, and then reenable them all.

    and I guess dvbviewer works instead of tvservice from step 5+ ??

    /gibman
     

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    I'll try that tomorrow as the family is just settling down to watch the TV.
    Background info - I did run with the sat card enabled and the Nova installed but disabled in the tvservice before my last upgrade to SSD and Win7; I was just using the Hauppauge remote and none of the tuners. With that configuration I had no trouble with either of the sat tuners. After the upgrade I enabled and tuned the four tuners and this problem started to occur.
    --peter
     
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    Hi gibman, I run a few more more tests today and here are my results.
    First, I rerun my test from yesterday and got the same results which confirms the previous test.
    Second, I ran the test which inluded the 4a step. As the Pinnacle device has installed in Device Manager as three components (Pinnacle PCTV DVB-S Dual Common, Pinnacle PCTV DVB-S Tuner 1 and Pinnacle PCTV DVB-S Tuner 2) I was able to disable/enable tuner 2 only. This action got the tuner working!

    I haven't tried dvbviewer yet as I don't have it installed on the PC. I am checking using the timeshift button on the Manual Control tab of the setuptv utility.

    As I have no MePo components running after I stop the tvservice, does this point to a Win7 problem?

    --peter
     

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    it looks like bad drivers to me.
    they are in a bad state when coming out of standby/hibernation unless they are reset (as in step 4a).

    you can try other drivers, older drivers, maybe from other manufacturers using the same chipset.

    if all fails, you can try out the devcon utility, which essentially gives you the power to disable-enable any driver during onresume.

    try search this from for devcon.
    https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/tvserver-bug.103211/page-2#post-820016

    btw. you have to download devcon :)

    seems, we need a wiki entry for this devcon usage as well.

    best would be to disable the drivers before suspend.
    then enable the drivers when resumed.

    you should also try and postpone the tv card detection mechanism in tvserver.
    we dont want it to try and look for cards that are still disabled.
    if this is the case we end up with a "n/a" card, until tvservice is restarted.

    look here:
    http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_...figuration/TV-Server_Configuration/06_General

    /gibman
     
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