[other] Problems with dropping frames with EVR (2 Viewers)

[wonkyd]

Re: AW: Problems with dropping frames with EVR

perhaps your card is capable for HD, but MP GUI and HD?!

But that's the thing, it has done it perfectly well in the past.

Are you saying that because of recent changes I'm going to need to upgrade it?

 

[tourettes]

Re: AW: Problems with dropping frames with EVR

perhaps your card is capable for HD, but MP GUI and HD?!

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please always test with "standard" MP, no extra skins or plugins!

Everyone who thinks, that MP must behave like MPC-HC or VLC... Those players do not have such a nice GUI at all! The GUI also need a bit of ressources... Please don't think that playing back a sample in other players is the same like in MP!

And that ATI driver / flickering issue workaround. And seems that ATI might heve finally solved that bug after many years (and hudreds of free hours by MP developers...). 10.2 Catalyst at least looks promising on that area...

 

[OnkelChris]

AW: Problems with dropping frames with EVR

i don't say you should upgrade your hardware. but if you have a look at the changelog of MP... wow! there are so many things done and improved. but every new "feature" will affect the whole project. If you would use a skin with totally overloaded animations and graphics, your system will become slower and slower.

I know, that it is hard to believe, that the earlier versions where running smooth and the current version is not. But hey, who really believes, that his/her computer is up-to-date e.g. one year after buying it?

And of course it's always the combination of used hardware and software installed. Nobody can tell you in detail, why your system is affected by massive dropping frames...


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And that ATI driver / flickering issue workaround. And seems that ATI might heve finally solved that bug after many years (and hudreds of free hours by MP developers...). 10.2 Catalyst at least looks promising on that area...

Does this mean, MP could get rid of this "workaround"? Or does this just mean, that the combination of Catalyst 10.2 and the MP "workaround" could solve this flickering?

 

[tourettes]

Re: AW: Problems with dropping frames with EVR

And that ATI driver / flickering issue workaround. And seems that ATI might heve finally solved that bug after many years (and hudreds of free hours by MP developers...). 10.2 Catalyst at least looks promising on that area...

Does this mean, MP could get rid of this "workaround"? Or does this just mean, that the combination of Catalyst 10.2 and the MP "workaround" could solve this flickering?

Probably the later, as it would be really risky to change the rendering behavior at this stage. I really wish that it would have happened already months ago with some earlier catalyst version...

 

[Swede]

I seem to have TSreader problems in my Vista+Ati setup since 24975 (I think). Same in both EVR and VM9. With and without deinterlacing. Same with all codecs. Before I had 50 fps but now I only have 30-35 fps and lots of drops. Video is choppy. Catalyst 10.2 installed but no diff. Logs attached. My XP+Nvidia setup runs smooth with 50 fps.

 

[jonm]

Can someone remind me why I should be using EVR as opposed to VMR9?

I just tried switching to VMR9 as the dropped frames were driving me bonkers with EVR and now I have perfect video with no dropped frames.

What's the reason for not using VMR9?

 

[gemx]

Can someone remind me why I should be using EVR as opposed to VMR9?

I just tried switching to VMR9 as the dropped frames were driving me bonkers with EVR and now I have perfect video with no dropped frames.

What's the reason for not using VMR9?

You simply loose HW Accl.

If your CPU is powerfull enough to decode 1080i itself or you don't even watch HD content than you might be also fine with VMR9 in combination with Windows 7

 

[tourettes]

Can someone remind me why I should be using EVR as opposed to VMR9?

I just tried switching to VMR9 as the dropped frames were driving me bonkers with EVR and now I have perfect video with no dropped frames.

What's the reason for not using VMR9?

You simply loose HW Accl.

If your CPU is powerfull enough to decode 1080i itself or you don't even watch HD content than you might be also fine with VMR9 in combination with Windows 7

If you are't afraid of seeing desktop or tearing

 

[jonm]

Thanks. Thus far, it seems to be working fine, in SD and HD. Certainly no tearing. Crucially - no dropped frames.

 

[tourettes]

Thanks. Thus far, it seems to be working fine, in SD and HD. Certainly no tearing. Crucially - no dropped frames.

VMR9 is not afressive to drop late frames, so you could instead to start to have A/V sync issues if the GPU/CPU is not able to keep up. But only testing will tell.