Not sure. I use AnyDVD and another program.
Ripping HD/BlueRay DVDs (1 Viewer)
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Not sure. I use AnyDVD and another program.
I highly encourage taking the time to actually encode your ripped movies. Takes up a lot less space with minimal quality loss depending on your encode settings. If you're too lazy to learn how to properly encode there is an amazing GUI that has been released a few months back that does practically everything for you. Look for a GUI called RipBot... it's a frontend gui that works with the normal encoding tools such as eac3to and tsmuxer etc. to create fully compatible 1080/720/whatever 4.1 compatible x264 encoded mkv's. It works with DVD, HD, and Bluray and is really easy to use. You download the zip/rar of the ripbot program along with latest Haali and FFDShow I believe... extract ripbot and install the other 2 and you should be close to done. Check out the Doom9 forums for more information regarding it.
It really is easy to use and you should be able to jump right into it.
edit: You'll need anydvdhd also in order to break the DRM protection etc. I do all my encodes with the CQ encoding method because I want my quality intact... could care less about the space requirements. I just want it smaller than the original Blu/HD and still high quality.
It really is easy to use and you should be able to jump right into it.
edit: You'll need anydvdhd also in order to break the DRM protection etc. I do all my encodes with the CQ encoding method because I want my quality intact... could care less about the space requirements. I just want it smaller than the original Blu/HD and still high quality.
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This is a little at odds with itself...
If you re-encode you loose quality. Also you are taking several hours to extract the streams from a BD disc and then probably encode video which is stored as H264 back as H264 with slightly different settings.
If you want to save a little space but loose no quality then you simply need to extract the streams you want from the BD media and then mux them into a container of your choice. This takes up about 20Gb for a film where the disc takes up 30-40Gb and takes about one hour to do end to end. EAC3TO and MKVMerge will do this very easily for you. As I said before though you are going to have issues with HD audio
Last time I tried Ripbot you did not have the option to simply remux existing streams.
I have considered your thoughts of just remuxing the untouched streams into an mkv container... but I have done a lot of research regarding this and have found it to be not worth it. I wouldn't say just simply ripping the streams would knock off 10gb's of a bluray disc... that is a very very generous number. I'd say more along the lines of 5GB's - at 20 movies ripped/remuxed that's only 100GB saved versus keeping the original source rip. When I encode I usually use a CQ setting of around 20 or 21 sometimes as low as 18 (it really is source dependent). My quality loss is extremely minimal compared to the source and I usually knock off 10-15GB's depending on the movie. Multiply that by 20 movies and that's between 200-300GB's saved space on average. I currently own probably 100 HD/Blu rips/encodes... 25 or so I have personally done. They range from 10-18GB's in size - that's 1TB - 1.8TB's of space used. If I had kept or acquired them at a source file size of 20-30GB a pop that'd be - 2TB - 3TB's of space needed. That could potentially lead to a whole other TB hard drive which costs $80-100 on its own along with the additional electrical costs that come with it per year (for the love of god WD needs to drop their 2TB prices to $200 or less lol). It really does start to add up fast. I can't see any reason why not to encode your rips.
Here's a sample of a recent encode I didn't personally do but is perfect to show what I mean in terms of quality loss:
Source - 25-50GB?
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Encode - 16GB
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And here's a very old encode I did before I knew what I was really doing lol - forgive the fact that it is in JPG format:
Source 26GB
http://www.charlesjorourke.com/hosting/new-raw.jpg
Encode 8GB
http://www.charlesjorourke.com/hosting/new-mkv.jpg
I honestly can't see how it's worth it for the little tiny practically indistinguishable difference. Although I can understand how some individuals would not want to take the time to do these encodes... it comes down to character/personality at that point.
Here's a sample of a recent encode I didn't personally do but is perfect to show what I mean in terms of quality loss:
Source - 25-50GB?
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Encode - 16GB
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And here's a very old encode I did before I knew what I was really doing lol - forgive the fact that it is in JPG format:
Source 26GB
http://www.charlesjorourke.com/hosting/new-raw.jpg
Encode 8GB
http://www.charlesjorourke.com/hosting/new-mkv.jpg
I honestly can't see how it's worth it for the little tiny practically indistinguishable difference. Although I can understand how some individuals would not want to take the time to do these encodes... it comes down to character/personality at that point.
I have a few ripped blu rays and simply muxing only the streams you want does shave a lot off versus keeping the whole disc. For example the dark knight remuxed is 27gb and the blu ray itself is over 40gb. Also although there is minimal loss, although some people will notice this, it takes a looooonnngggg time to encode. On my gaming rig which is quad core it said it would take over 24 hours to encode the dark knight. I just dont think its worth it. Altough if I had as large a collection as you then maybe i would. Anyways as you say it all comes down to personal preference...
Just looking at ISOs of four BD films and in they come out as 46GB, 42GB, 42GB. I am fairly sure that these three films once stripped of all menus, extras, subtitles, soundtracks etc came out on average at around 26Gb.
Just kicking of the 46GB ISO again now and will report back.
Yep just did a certain film of a male made of ferrous metal and the ISO was 43.9GB ISO. This has been extracted to
23.8GB H264 Video file
2.93GB FLAC audio file (direct TrueHD copy would be smaller)
This will remux into just under 27GB of MKV which is a saving of about 17GB for one disc.
In my experience this has been about average
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Eac3to and MKVMerge
They EAC3To guide is not too difficult to find on google.
Took just shy of two house last night and that was mainly beause ISO was mounted from my NAS box and there was a fair bit of other network traffic taking too.
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i've heard that AnyDVD HD works great... but can it also rip only the main movie and audio or does it only rip an entire iso?
edit: found the answer: it only rips to iso whic will be big as hell.. the i can use Clone_BD to rip the main movie/video out and then put them together... lawd... i wish it could of been easier... but i've read after doing it once.. it just as easy as using lets say DVDfab
edit: found the answer: it only rips to iso whic will be big as hell.. the i can use Clone_BD to rip the main movie/video out and then put them together... lawd... i wish it could of been easier... but i've read after doing it once.. it just as easy as using lets say DVDfab
I use MeGUI with tsMuxer and eac3to with Surcode DTS encoder.
It is a lot more flexible than Ripbot and some of the other 'one-click' tools, I can encode to fit on a DVD and play in a standalone player if I want (although cannot see the point as I have the Blu-ray).
Quick summary of steps;
1. Rip Blu-ray with AnyDVD HD
2. Demux Audio with ts Muxer
3. Create AVS script in MeGUI with the ripped m2ts file as source
4. Start encoding video, encode audio with eac3to to either DTS or AC3
5. Sleep
6. In the morning mux the video output with the audio encoded the night before
Done
It can be a lot more involved than this if you start playing with subtitles and chapter files etc. However you have a lot more control over the video encoding than with Ripbot and the more you use it more you learn what you can do.
It is a lot more flexible than Ripbot and some of the other 'one-click' tools, I can encode to fit on a DVD and play in a standalone player if I want (although cannot see the point as I have the Blu-ray).
Quick summary of steps;
1. Rip Blu-ray with AnyDVD HD
2. Demux Audio with ts Muxer
3. Create AVS script in MeGUI with the ripped m2ts file as source
4. Start encoding video, encode audio with eac3to to either DTS or AC3
5. Sleep
6. In the morning mux the video output with the audio encoded the night before
Done
It can be a lot more involved than this if you start playing with subtitles and chapter files etc. However you have a lot more control over the video encoding than with Ripbot and the more you use it more you learn what you can do.