SAF v4.00 ''stable'' (StandAlone Filters) - DXVA ready (H.264 and VC-1). (9 Viewers)

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doveman

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Re: SAF v4.00beta (StandAlone Filters) - DXVA ready (MPEG2, H.264 and VC-1).

1) you should uninstall NERO, it can cause lot of problems
2) from your LOG: SAF v4.00 beta23 *LOCKED* - you need to *unlock* SAF, check PM.

Thanks for the PM hoborg, it's working now, even with dual-screen which wasn't working with LiveTV and previous version of SAF v4, and without having to uninstall NERO :)

The only config that appears now under Codecs and Renderers is Monogram AAC Decoder. Is that correct?

I've done some testing with various files on my 2600XT and P4 2.8Ghz. The details of each file were obtained from MediaInfo. The number after the = is the height * width * number of frames, as I read that around 9m was the max that could be played, so I was interested to see if this was true.

300 1080p noaudio.mkv (AVC) (10.6Mbps, 1920*800, High@L4.1, 5 Ref Frames = 7680000) - under 10% CPU

I am Legend.mp4 (AVC, AAC) (7979Kbps, 1920*816, High@L4.1, 3 Ref Frames = 4700160) - around 20% CPU

The following 3 clips are too short to properly observe the CPU usage, but it looks like it's about 10-20% and I tested them in MPC-HC and they all played with DXVA - H264 :

AAC 6CH 48000hz - Fast & Furious 4 2009.mkv (AVC, AAC) (1280*544, Main@L4.1, 3 Ref Frames)

AC3 6CH 48000hz - Deja Vu 2006.mkv (AVC, AC-3) (1280x528, Main@L5.1, 8 Ref Frames)

DTS 6CH 48000hz - Jumper 2007.mkv (AVC, DTS) (1280*544, High@L5.1, 5 Ref Frames)

WMV (WMV3) 720P - 80% CPU, OK
WMV (WMV3) 1080P - 90% CPU, OK

*I can't seem to get WMVs to play accelerated. In MPC-HC and WMP11 even 720Ps are unwatchably jerky, whether DXVA (in WMP11) is enabled or not. They play OK in MP, but I'd like to get the CPU usage down.

SD LiveTV/MPEG2 - 25-30% CPU, these don't appear to be accelerated.

AVIs - 15% CPU, strange to see SD AVIs using as much CPU as HD AVCs, but perhaps that's normal.

Quantam of Solace.mp4 (mp4 h264, single AAC) (4337Kbps, 1920*1056, High@L5.0, 9 Ref Frames = 18247680) - Played fine in MPC-HC with only about 20% CPU, which seems to disprove the 9m limit theory. Currently causing my display to go off and my PC to stop responding, but I think it's just a power issue!

The following aren't working in MP:

WMA 6CH 48Khz - The Dark Knight 2008.wmv (VC-1 (Microsoft), WMA3) (1920*1080, AP@L3) - High CPU, very jerky (Works fine in MPC-HC, 40% CPU, DXVA: VC-1 bitstream decode)

POTC - Dead Man's Chest.mp4 (AVC, dual AAC) (7810Kbps, 1920*796, High@L5.1, CABAC / 6 Ref Frames = 9169920) - won't play in MP or MPC-HC (no error, just no audio or video and timeline doesn't move)

Planet Earth.mkv (AVC, AC-3, ASS) (18.5Mbps, 1920*1080, High@L5.1, CABAC / 16 Ref Frames = 33177600) - only uses about 20% CPU but video spasming all over the place, audio is fine. (same in MPC-HC)

I've posted screenshots from DXVA checker, which might make more sense to you and explain why MPEG-2 or WMV (WMV3) doesn't seem to be accelerated. I've tried ticking DXVA_MPEG2 and DXVA_MPEG2SD as well but that didn't make any difference:




 

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    Re: SAF v4.00beta (StandAlone Filters) - DXVA ready (MPEG2, H.264 and VC-1).

    Hi Quick question. I have been using SAF (ulocked) for a few weeks (seems to work great). I'd like to try the latest test build. What is the recommended way to upgrade? Also do I need to do anything to get an unlocked version of the latest build (my current version is unlocked)...

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    Re: SAF v4.00beta (StandAlone Filters) - DXVA ready (MPEG2, H.264 and VC-1).

    Hi Quick question. I have been using SAF (ulocked) for a few weeks (seems to work great). I'd like to try the latest test build. What is the recommended way to upgrade? Also do I need to do anything to get an unlocked version of the latest build (my current version is unlocked)...

    Thanks

    Andy

    You only have to configure your system for unlock once. Then you just download SAF and run it (it asks to uninstall, click yes) and then you run it once again to do a fresh install. It's all very clever.

    Emph
     

    doveman

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    Re: SAF v4.00beta (StandAlone Filters) - DXVA ready (MPEG2, H.264 and VC-1).

    Strangely, whilst the latest SAF works quite well with my P4/2600XT system, it doesn't work at all well with my X3 720/HD3200 system, both of which are running Cat 9.12.

    On the latter, trying to play AVC clips in MPC-HC results in it locking up or at least freezing for a very long while before playback starts. In MP, the clips don't play with the Cyberlink H264 Decoder at all, with MP just freezing and on one occasion the PC BSOD. All the clips played fine in MPC-HC with MPC Video decoder before and most of them play well on the 2600XT system using the Cyberlink H264 Decoder.
     

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    Re: SAF v4.00beta (StandAlone Filters) - DXVA ready (MPEG2, H.264 and VC-1).

    @doveman
    If you run video in MPC-HC player, you will see if DXVA is used or not.
    And if your MP4 videos do nto work, use MKV merge to mux them in to MKV. They should works now, for mufing WMV in to MKV, you can use SAF tool DSmux.

    Strangely, whilst the latest SAF works quite well with my P4/2600XT system, it doesn't work at all well with my X3 720/HD3200 system, both of which are running Cat 9.12.

    On the latter, trying to play AVC clips in MPC-HC results in it locking up or at least freezing for a very long while before playback starts. In MP, the clips don't play with the Cyberlink H264 Decoder at all, with MP just freezing and on one occasion the PC BSOD. All the clips played fine in MPC-HC with MPC Video decoder before and most of them play well on the 2600XT system using the Cyberlink H264 Decoder.

    BSOD = hardware fault ?overheating? or driver crash, Decoder cannot do BSOD by itself. Try diferrent iGPU drivers.
     

    st0ne

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    Re: SAF v4.00beta (StandAlone Filters) - DXVA ready (MPEG2, H.264 and VC-1).

    hi,

    i'm using the saf-filters and they work very good :)

    ATI card with DXVA and hardware VA-Deinterlacing.

    but i want to try ffdshow with yadif deinterlacing... and here is my problem...

    when i choose the ffdshow Video filter in the mdiaportal codec configuration, then it won't be used. it always uses the cyberlink mpeg2 decoder.

    maybe someone has an hint for me?

    greetz st0ne
     

    hoborg

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    Re: SAF v4.00beta (StandAlone Filters) - DXVA ready (MPEG2, H.264 and VC-1).

    hi,

    i'm using the saf-filters and they work very good :)

    ATI card with DXVA and hardware VA-Deinterlacing.

    but i want to try ffdshow with yadif deinterlacing... and here is my problem...

    when i choose the ffdshow Video filter in the mdiaportal codec configuration, then it won't be used. it always uses the cyberlink mpeg2 decoder.

    maybe someone has an hint for me?

    greetz st0ne

    FFDshow MPEG-2 decoder is blacklisted in MP ts reader.
     

    st0ne

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    Re: SAF v4.00beta (StandAlone Filters) - DXVA ready (MPEG2, H.264 and VC-1).

    oh ok, maybe thats the problem :D

    can i use ffdshow as postprocessing?
    mpeg2 decoding by hardware dxva and deinterlacing with the ffdshow yadif?
     

    hoborg

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    Re: SAF v4.00beta (StandAlone Filters) - DXVA ready (MPEG2, H.264 and VC-1).

    oh ok, maybe thats the problem :D

    can i use ffdshow as postprocessing?
    mpeg2 decoding by hardware dxva and deinterlacing with the ffdshow yadif?

    No, DXVA decoder must be directly connected to renderer.

    BTW, why do you want to use yadif deinterlacing? VA is one of most advanced deinterlacing you can get...
     

    domb

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    Re: SAF v4.00beta (StandAlone Filters) - DXVA ready (MPEG2, H.264 and VC-1).

    Hi and great work on the SAF filters! One thing i've noticed is that DTS decoding doesn't work properly since beta22. If you play back an MKV with DTS or DTS-MA then the video will stutter and the audio plays too fast. This only happens with libavcodec. If you change it to libdts the problem goes away but it doesn't decode 7.1 audio etc. It doesn't actually affect me as I don't have surround sound anyway but I'm sure this will affect some people.

    Great work otherwise.

    Can I just point out one thing. In the guide at the beginning you should say what to do with proppage.dll. Im using Windows 7 x64 and had already registered it in Windows/System32 which worked fine but your installer said it couldn't be found (graphstudio still worked). I realized your installer looks for it in SysWOW64 so you should probably state this in the installation instructions.

    The new beta23 works much better using the PowerDVD 9 video decoder. H.264 works :)
     

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