Automatic Refreshrate Changer (5 Viewers)

[dheschke]

AW: Automatic Refreshrate Changer

I need to Reclock to perform PAL HD Speeddown for NTSC content? How to fix it?

 

[Helios61]

[Soved] Automatic Refreshrate Changer doesn't work anymore for me?

Hi Devs, hi community!

After a reinstall of ATI CCC and ddrivers Automatic Refreshrate Changer doesn't work anymore for me and i don't know why ! I hope, you can give me a hint, what am i doing wrong! Changing the refreshrate in CCC is working fine, but not with ARC!

Best regards and Thanks

Helios

[EDIT]Played around a little bit with the CCC Dual-Monitor Settings, now it works again!

 

[Helios61]

AW: Automatic Refreshrate Changer

Hi!

I reported this issue earlier in other threads, but nobobody could help!

Curiously, a lot of dropped frames occur only with NTSC material, HD and SD, 30Hz, 29.97 HZ and 60HZ, please take a look at the screenshot! The TV switches correctly to the refreshrate, i have set in "Automatic Refreshrate Changer - Konfig"!

Settings ARC:

Spoiler

<entry name="CINEMA_fps">23.976;24</entry>
<entry name="CINEMA_hz">24</entry>
<entry name="refreshrate01_ext">
</entry>
<entry name="refreshrate01_name">CINEMA</entry>
<entry name="PAL_fps">25</entry>
<entry name="PAL_hz">50</entry>
<entry name="refreshrate02_ext">
</entry>
<entry name="refreshrate02_name">PAL</entry>
<entry name="HDTV_fps">50</entry>
<entry name="HDTV_hz">50</entry>
<entry name="refreshrate03_ext">
</entry>
<entry name="refreshrate03_name">HDTV</entry>
<entry name="NTSC_fps">59.94</entry>
<entry name="NTSC_hz">59.94</entry>
<entry name="refreshrate04_ext">
</entry>
<entry name="refreshrate04_name">NTSC</entry>
<entry name="TV_fps">25</entry>
<entry name="TV_hz">50</entry>
<entry name="refreshrate05_ext">
</entry>
<entry name="refreshrate05_name">TV</entry>
<entry name="CINEMA24_fps">24</entry>
<entry name="CINEMA24_hz">24</entry>
<entry name="refreshrate06_ext">
</entry>
<entry name="refreshrate06_name">CINEMA24</entry>
<entry name="NTSCHD_fps">60</entry>
<entry name="NTSCHD_hz">60</entry>
<entry name="refreshrate07_ext">
</entry>
<entry name="refreshrate07_name">NTSCHD</entry>
<entry name="NTSCFILM_fps">29.97</entry>
<entry name="NTSCFILM_hz">29.97</entry>
<entry name="refreshrate08_ext">
</entry>
<entry name="refreshrate08_name">NTSCFILM</entry>

MediaInfo

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Allgemein
UniqueID/String : 179341232064846818112890554941392647460 (0x86EBDD6AB8D6ADE4A808752ADBAD7524)
Vollständiger Name : K:\DVD-Music (K)\Beethoven - Fidelio (Metropolitan Opera 2002)\Beethoven - Fidelio (Metropolitan Opera 2002).mkv
Format : Matroska
Dateigröße : 6,93 GiB
Dauer : 2h 3min
Gesamte Bitrate : 8 027 Kbps
Kodierungs-Datum : UTC 2011-01-15 10:50:02
Kodierendes Programm : mkvmerge v4.4.0 ('Die Wiederkehr') gebaut am Oct 31 2010 21:52:48
verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek : libebml v1.0.0 + libmatroska v1.0.0
Cover : Cover

Video
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Video
Format-Version : Version 2
Format-Profil : Main@Main
Format-Einstellungen für BVOP : Nein
Format-Einstellungen für Matrix : üblich
Codec-ID : V_MPEG2
Codec-ID/Info : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Dauer : 2h 3min
Bitraten-Modus : variabel
nominale Bitrate : 6 000 Kbps
Breite : 720 Pixel
Höhe : 480 Pixel
Bildseitenverhältnis : 4:3
Bildwiederholungsrate : 29,970 FPS
Standard : NTSC
ColorSpace : YUV
ChromaSubsampling : 4:2:0
BitDepth/String : 8 bits
Scantyp : Interlaced
Scanreihenfolge : oberes Feld zuerst
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.579
Titel : Beethoven - Fidelio (Metropolitan Opera 2002)
Sprache : Deutsch

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec-ID : A_DTS
Dauer : 2h 3min
Bitraten-Modus : konstant
Bitrate : 1 510 Kbps
Kanäle : 6 Kanäle
Kanal-Positionen : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Samplingrate : 48,0 KHz
BitDepth/String : 24 bits
Video Verzögerung : 10ms
Stream-Größe : 1,30 GiB (19%)
Titel : DTS 5.1 - 1510 Kbps
Sprache : Deutsch

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format_Settings_ModeExtension : CM (complete main)
Codec-ID : A_AC3
Dauer : 2h 3min
Bitraten-Modus : konstant
Bitrate : 448 Kbps
Kanäle : 6 Kanäle
Kanal-Positionen : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Samplingrate : 48,0 KHz
BitDepth/String : 16 bits
Stream-Größe : 396 MiB (6%)
Titel : AC3 5.1 - 448 Kbps
Sprache : Deutsch

Audio #3
ID : 4
Format : PCM
Codec-ID : A_PCM/INT/LIT
Dauer : 2h 3min
Bitraten-Modus : konstant
Kanäle : 2 Kanäle
Samplingrate : 48,0 KHz
BitDepth/String : 16 bits
Titel : PCM 2.0
Sprache : Deutsch

Text #1
ID : 5
Format : VobSub
Muxing-Modus : zlib
Codec-ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec-ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Titel : Deutsch
Sprache : Deutsch

Text #2
ID : 6
Format : VobSub
Muxing-Modus : zlib
Codec-ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec-ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Titel : English
Sprache : Englisch

Menü
00:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 01
00:01:55.115 : en:Chapter 02
00:08:42.955 : en:Chapter 03
00:13:04.116 : en:Chapter 04
00:13:39.018 : en:Chapter 05
00:17:16.001 : en:Chapter 06
00:18:51.130 : en:Chapter 07
00:23:25.737 : en:Chapter 08
00:24:19.958 : en:Chapter 09
00:27:05.957 : en:Chapter 10
00:28:36.715 : en:Chapter 11
00:34:30.134 : en:Chapter 12
00:35:41.272 : en:Chapter 13
00:37:26.210 : en:Chapter 14
00:40:31.529 : en:Chapter 15
00:41:13.070 : en:Chapter 16
00:45:56.620 : en:Chapter 17
00:54:27.931 : en:Chapter 18
00:55:12.275 : en:Chapter 19
01:02:24.774 : en:Chapter 20
01:10:03.265 : en:Chapter 21
01:13:34.410 : en:Chapter 22
01:17:00.816 : en:Chapter 23
01:24:55.090 : en:Chapter 24
01:26:55.343 : en:Chapter 25
01:31:04.091 : en:Chapter 26
01:32:21.335 : en:Chapter 27
01:38:23.898 : en:Chapter 28
01:39:04.371 : en:Chapter 29
01:44:07.307 : en:Chapter 30
01:47:00.447 : en:Chapter 31
01:48:53.894 : en:Chapter 32
01:56:32.685 : en:Chapter 33

Playback of all other formats (HD& SD) is working fine! I hope, you can help! Logs and screenshot attached!

Best regards
Helios

 

[HomeY]

The default refreshrate settings are a bit outdated, i'm using these (off course they depend on the possible refreshrates of your TV/monitor):

    <entry name="CINEMA_fps">23.976</entry>
    <entry name="CINEMA_hz">23</entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate01_ext">
    </entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate01_name">CINEMA</entry>
    <entry name="CINEMA24_fps">24</entry>
    <entry name="CINEMA24_hz">24</entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate02_ext">
    </entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate02_name">CINEMA24</entry>
    <entry name="PAL_fps">25</entry>
    <entry name="PAL_hz">50</entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate03_ext">
    </entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate03_name">PAL</entry>
    <entry name="PALHD_fps">50</entry>
    <entry name="PALHD_hz">50</entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate04_ext">
    </entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate04_name">PALHD</entry>
    <entry name="NTSC_fps">59.94</entry>
    <entry name="NTSC_hz">59</entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate05_ext">
    </entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate05_name">NTSC</entry>
    <entry name="NTSCHD_fps">60</entry>
    <entry name="NTSCHD_hz">60</entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate06_ext">
    </entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate06_name">NTSCHD</entry>
    <entry name="NTSCFILM_fps">29.97</entry>
    <entry name="NTSCFILM_hz">29</entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate07_ext">
    </entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate07_name">NTSCFILM</entry>
    <entry name="TV_fps">25</entry>
    <entry name="TV_hz">50</entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate07_ext">
    </entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate08_name">TV</entry>
    <entry name="HDTV_fps">50</entry>
    <entry name="HDTV_hz">50</entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate09_ext">
    </entry>
    <entry name="refreshrate09_name">HDTV</entry>
  </section>

You might wanna take a look @ this Wiki which explains the new settings.

If you set ATi refreshrate @ 24Hz, it'll do 24Hz. When you want 23.976Hz, you need to set it @ 23Hz (ATi CCC wil report 24Hz, but you can double check through windows refreshrate settings for you monitor/TV).

29Hz refreshrate = 29.97fps
59Hz refreshrate = 59.94fps

 

[Helios61]

AW: Re: Automatic Refreshrate Changer

The default refreshrate settings are a bit outdated, i'm using these (off course they depend on the possible refreshrates of your TV/monitor):

for reply HomeY. I have tried your settings, but there is still the same issue with NTSC (nearlly all frames are dropped)! Maybe the issue is TV related -> Link, but in manual i have found these refreshrates , and TV switches the refreshrate fine!

Best regards

Helios

 

[HomeY]

Strange.... I checked the manual of your TV and it should be able to do 24/25/30 fps without a problem.

Looking at your screenshot again, it looks like your refreshrate is set @ 75Hz, so that might be the reason!
Have you tried playing the same video ouside MediaPortal with MPC-HC (Ctrl + J for the graph)?

 

[Helios61]

AW: Re: Automatic Refreshrate Changer

Strange.... I checked the manual of your TV and it should be able to do 24/25/30 fps without a problem.

Looking at your screenshot again, it looks like your refreshrate is set @ 75Hz, so that might be the reason!
Have you tried playing the same video ouside MediaPortal with MPC-HC (Ctrl + J for the graph)?

It's really strange ! 75Hz ist the refreshrate of my first monitor and please look at the screenshot: Meas rfsh: 29970686
All other video are working like a charme! It occurs only with NTFS! New screenshots attached! (HDTV 1080i, SDTV, 24p and MPC-HC)

 

[edterbak]

Hi Helios,

Can you try if you have still have the problem if you only use 1 display. Secondairy disabled.
Might be an issue with display recognition. IF all is well with sec display disabled, this theory would be eliminated.

Question. You are using 2 displays, am I right? Could you give the details about that. Beamer/TV what is primairy/sec and what are the capabillities.

 

[Helios61]

AW: Re: Automatic Refreshrate Changer

Hi edterbak!

Thanks for your reply!

Hi Helios,

Can you try if you have still have the problem if you only use 1 display. Secondairy disabled.
Might be an issue with display recognition. IF all is well with sec display disabled, this theory would be eliminated.

I have tried it, but unfortunaly the same issue. New logs and screenshot are attached! Some Log-Entries are strange:

011-02-23 08:39:09.076531 [Info.][MPMain(1)]: RefreshRateChanger.SetRefreshRateBasedOnFPS: current refreshrate is 50hz - changing it to 29hz
2011-02-23 08:39:09.079532 [Info.][MPMain(1)]: RefreshRateChanger.SetRefreshRateBasedOnFPS: using internal win32 method for changing refreshrate. current is 50hz, desired is 29
2011-02-23 08:39:09.089532 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: W7RefreshRateHelper.SetDisplayConfig(...): [B][COLOR="Red"]SDC_VALIDATE of 29/1 failed[/COLOR][/B]
2011-02-23 08:39:09.348547 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: W7RefreshRateHelper.GetRefreshRate: QueryDisplayConfig returned 30000/1001
2011-02-23 08:39:09.354547 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: CycleRefreshRate: successfully changed refresh rate to 29,97Hz (29Hz requested)
2011-02-23 08:39:09.366548 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: CycleRefresh: DWM Detected, performing shenanigans

It think, the bold, red text is the reason for the dropped frames, but i have no clue, how to solve it!

Question. You are using 2 displays, am I right? Could you give the details about that. Beamer/TV what is primairy/sec and what are the capabillities.

First Display is "Samsung SyncMaster 226BW" -> Link! Monitor is configured with 1152 x 864 @ 75Hz!

I have made some more tests with ATI CCC! In CCC it is possible to select the refreshrates 29 Hz & 59 HZ (not italic font), but if i select these refreshrates, CCC directly switches back to 30 Hz & 60 HZ!

 

[HomeY]

Re: AW: Re: Automatic Refreshrate Changer

I have made some more tests with ATI CCC! In CCC it is possible to select the refreshrates 29 Hz & 59 HZ (not italic font), but if i select these refreshrates, CCC directly switches back to 30 Hz & 60 HZ!

Correct, same behaviour happens here, double check the refreshrates through Windows Monitor settings. Then you'll see it's set @ 29 & 59 (hopefully!)