Just came across this and thought it might be of interest.
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=4814&start=0&&&edition=1&ttl=20061127171109
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=4814&start=0&&&edition=1&ttl=20061127171109