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Discussion in 'General' started by MikeC, April 25, 2016.

  1. morpheus_xx
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    Regarding the IR code mapping, I think they needed to be commented, otherwise the key presses where always duplicated.

    All the playback of media items is based on a playlist, no matter if it is one or multiple item(s). I see following ways to deal with direct chapter seeking:
    • Use own keys for next/prev chapter. They could be mapped to the existing actions in every IChapterPlayer. No influence to existing behavior, but on the other hand difficult to find a logical key mapping. One idea: keys "page up"/"page down".
    • Use next/prev title in a modified way:
      • For image/audio playlists: keep current behavior (skipping between titles/media items of playlist)
      • For video: skip chapters (option: if no chapter present, skip titles)
    The 2nd approach would need some clear definitions though:
    • What to do for mixed playlists (image, audio, video)?
    • What to do for audio items with chapters? Not sure if we there is / was cuesheet-provider, it could offer chapters inside single-file-items. Even .mp4-audio could support chapters.


     
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    Hi,
    in my opinion channel up/down should be the next and previous item in a (play-)list, regardless of video or audio. In TV it is already the channel favorite group list.

    The buttons prev/next should be chapters, because in videos, movies and series there could be chapters, too. The only exception are audio tracks, that are too short for chapters... but high-res / high-quality 5-channel Audio tracks like live recordings of festivals, musicals, concerts, may have chapters because they are very long and not splittet up in several tracks. I don't know it, because I have no HQ live recordings or other long running audio tracks.
     
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    I like this idea. Only problem is for pure keyboard users. They won’t have direct keys for this. Edit: could be page up/down

    Are we able to refer to double button presses?
    We could also consider a single press for chapters and a double press for next.
     
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    This is the option I like less. The reason for this is that there are physical keys on remote controls for skipping prev/next title. To move this to page up/down would completely make them senseless.

    That's why I'd prefer to keep the track skipping as it is and only fill the "gap" by 2 additional key mappings.
     
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    Shouldn’t we make it work like it does in other software? In DVD/BR players isn’t next/prev used for skipping chapters (second proposal)? I would say always skip through chapters if available and if not, skip to end (next title). I also like the channel up/down for the playlist. How do keyboard users change channel? Mouse?
     
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    So this would be the 2nd approach: first try to skip chapters, then titles. This way we don't need extra keys and can have one logic for all kind of items.

    On keyboard this is mapped to "page up/down". In TV it leads to channel changes. For all other media types this is not used.
     
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    Hi,
    good ideas from all of you.

    My suggestion all together: Make it flexible.

    1) Prev / Next Buttons
    First use: Skip chapters
    Second use: When no chapters, skip titles (next on playlist)

    2) Channel Up / Down
    First use: Prev/Next channel in TV
    Second use: Prev/Next title in other media

    So it would be possible to jump to next playlist item with channel up/down, although the video/media has chapters.
     
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    I am looking into implementation details. The first part to use prev/next in the above way should be possible, as the keys are already handled, we only extend the logic.

    The 2nd part needs more thoughts and checks: unlike the global play actions, the "page up/down" key is used in different views, i.e. the media lists use them for navigation, the EPG grid as well. So mapping it like "prev"/"next" keys globally will cause issues. There's already a related warning in code ;)
     
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    No need to set them globally, only in the FullScreenKeyMappings would be enough, so no risk to conflict with other mapping’s.
     
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