1080i material not deinterlacing under 1.0.1.0 (1 Viewer)

[globaldonkey]

Yep, passively cooled HIS.

HIGHTECH HIS ATI HD4670 iSilence 4 | MegaBuy Computer Parts

There was a Sapphire one, but I spent a couple of months trying to get my hands on one in Australia without success (which is why I put up with the 4350 for so long). Apparently Sapphire have stopped making them.

Just be aware that the big blue heatsink is on the back of the card, and will consume the slot next to the card.

EDIT: Oh Snap! Looks like a bought the last one from Megabuy

 

[pilehave]

globaldonkey: nice to hear you have overcome your obstackles

Does anyone know if disabling onboard HD 3200 will save any power?

If I put in a 4670 there's an extra 60W to cater, but the 4550 is only 25W. If there's anything to salvage y disabling the 3200 I may be able to run it in my current setup...

 

[globaldonkey]

I dunno, but based on Calumgw's experience with the 4350, it might be worth going for the 4550 if you are worried about the power.

 

[retro]

Well, here's one that has given up on versions above 1.0...

I think I've tried everything...different Catalysts from 8.5 up to 9.8...graphic cards from HD3450 up to HD4870.
All codecs I could find...CoreAVC, PowerDVD, ArcSoft, Ffdshow, Elecard etc.
Fresh XP SP3 installs. Old XP-installs.

No luck. Results are jitter, dropped frames, pixelation...all with a cpu-usage around 10%...

The HD4870 went back to the store, and I went back to HD3450 and MP 1.0 Final. (And DvbViewer...)
Zero dropped frames. Zero Jitter. PERFECT picture with my cheap HD3450 in combination with both PowerDVD-codec and CoreAVC.

I'm not a programmer, so I have no clue as to why this change in TvServer was done.
But it doesn't seem like progress or improvement to me.

Now, programmers, don't get angry...otherwise I love MP and I hope you sort this one out. Otherwise, I'm stuck with 1.0 and hoping that all future plugins will work with it...

 

[globaldonkey]

Well you are doing something wrong with your installation if you can't get a 4870 working with MP. You'd best go back to the drawing board and try again, because the developers aren't going to "sort this one out". Your system specs say you are using Nvidia Purevideo codecs with an ATI card??? Maybe start there.


BTW, the change which introduced the higher performance requirement was to the way the gui is rendered, not TV Server.

 

[retro]

Well you are doing something wrong with your installation if you can't get a 4870 working with MP. You'd best go back to the drawing board and try again, because the developers aren't going to "sort this one out". Your system specs say you are using Nvidia Purevideo codecs with an ATI card??? Maybe start there.


BTW, the change which introduced the higher performance requirement was to the way the gui is rendered, not TV Server.

Yes, maybe I am doing something wrong...?!? I think I tried every option with the 4870, but maybe I didn't...?!?

But the change in gui or whatever that requires a card in the league of 4670 or higher for correct playback..is that the right way to go..? I'm sure many have been using built-in graphic cards or low to medium Ati's with perfect results and now are forced to upgrade..
IMO, that is wrong...


What's wrong with my system specs..? I use Nvida MPEG-2 codecs for SD because I find them to give me the best picture.

Ok, using MP 1.0.2 is wrong..will change that since I have now happily downgraded because of the "improvements"...

 

[globaldonkey]

Well you are doing something wrong with your installation if you can't get a 4870 working with MP. You'd best go back to the drawing board and try again, because the developers aren't going to "sort this one out". Your system specs say you are using Nvidia Purevideo codecs with an ATI card??? Maybe start there.


BTW, the change which introduced the higher performance requirement was to the way the gui is rendered, not TV Server.

But the change in gui or whatever that requires a card in the league of 4670 or higher for correct playback..is that the right way to go..? I'm sure many have been using built-in graphic cards or low to medium Ati's with perfect results and now are forced to upgrade..
IMO, that is wrong...

If you take the time and read this thread, you will see comments from the developers as to why they made this "unpopular" decision. Several people have already made exactly the same point as you have in this thread, so no point going there again.

I would suggest you try using the SAF codec pack. As you can see from the more recent posts here, Calumgw had some success with a 4350 and MP 1.0.2. I suspect his success was due to using BOB de-interlacing, which is one of the more basic de-interlacing methods. I personally had an ok system with the 4350, but was more pleased with the results when I upgraded to a 4670. A 4870 IMHO is not necessary, but if you did use one, there is no reason why you should not be able to get flawless video performance with MP1.0.2 and above.

 

[retro]

I would suggest you try using the SAF codec pack. As you can see from the more recent posts here, Calumgw had some success with a 4350 and MP 1.0.2. I suspect his success was due to using BOB de-interlacing, which is one of the more basic de-interlacing methods. I personally had an ok system with the 4350, but was more pleased with the results when I upgraded to a 4670. A 4870 IMHO is not necessary, but if you did use one, there is no reason why you should not be able to get flawless video performance with MP1.0.2 and above.

I tried the SAF pack. No difference.

Never mind. MP 1.0 works fine with the plug-ins I use and I don't really think I miss that much vs. 1.0.2.
Ok, 1.0.2 was quicker navigating through the menus, is that related to the gui-change maybe..?

And if I go back to newer versions, I could always use DvbViewer as an external player...

 

[Reg]

Well you are doing something wrong with your installation if you can't get a 4870 working with MP. You'd best go back to the drawing board and try again, because the developers aren't going to "sort this one out". Your system specs say you are using Nvidia Purevideo codecs with an ATI card??? Maybe start there.


BTW, the change which introduced the higher performance requirement was to the way the gui is rendered, not TV Server.

But the change in gui or whatever that requires a card in the league of 4670 or higher for correct playback..is that the right way to go..? I'm sure many have been using built-in graphic cards or low to medium Ati's with perfect results and now are forced to upgrade..
IMO, that is wrong...

If you take the time and read this thread, you will see comments from the developers as to why they made this "unpopular" decision. Several people have already made exactly the same point as you have in this thread, so no point going there again.

I would suggest you try using the SAF codec pack. As you can see from the more recent posts here, Calumgw had some success with a 4350 and MP 1.0.2. I suspect his success was due to using BOB de-interlacing, which is one of the more basic de-interlacing methods. I personally had an ok system with the 4350, but was more pleased with the results when I upgraded to a 4670. A 4870 IMHO is not necessary, but if you did use one, there is no reason why you should not be able to get flawless video performance with MP1.0.2 and above.

I have read this thread from the very start and still cant understand why it was changed, but maybe I am just stupid?

 

[kiwijunglist]

What I would suggest (irrelevant if you have thrown away your 4350/4670 or whatever)
Format computer
Install XP SP3
Install Latest ATI Catalyst from Manufacturers website
Install TV Card Driver
Install MP 1.0.2
Use HDPACK 2.2 to install PDVD8 H264 codec (This app is great bc i just installs the bare codec)
DONT INSTALL ANYTHING ELSE

See what your TV is like, that will eliminate all other factors.