Hauppuage HVR-1600 Support (1 Viewer)

[Andrew H]

I had most of the same problems indicated here by other posters, the digital portion of the tuner worked fine with the latest SVN. The analog side would find the channels but then when you went to watch tv all you had was a black screen. The card wasn't recognized at all after modifying the capturecarddefinitions in 0.2.2.

I did get everything working though and I thought I would share what it took to get it working:

1) Backed up 0.2.2. Uninstalled 0.2.2. Rebooted.
2) Installed 0.2.2 again. Did NOT configure MP. Copied the CaptureCardDefinitions.xml file from page 2 of this thread to the MediaPortal directory, overwriting the installed xml file. Note to download the file noted on page 2, don't just try and append as shown in page1 of this thread as what is noted on page1 is incomplete.
3) Now ran configure. Channels detected for both NTSC and ATSC(also note I am running a PVR-150 in addition to the HVR-1600). Everything went smoothly from here on out.

One buggy thing I did notice with the configure is if you edit the properties of the capture card in configure it has the nasty habit of changing the source for the card to antenna from cable. If this happens you no longer can tune tv with the card. I suggest always rechecking this setting after changing any property associated with the tuner.

This now allowed the analog and digital portion of the HVR-1600 to work fine, I can tune stations with both analog and digital.

I will say now that the HVR-1600 is up and running that the picture quality of the analog side is awful compared to the PVR-150. I am hoping it's just the tweaking of some settings to make them comparable. If anyone has anything to add about tweaking the settings for this card it is much appreciated.

I've also noticed that the HD reception causes a lot of crashes in MP. It appears to happen more often with weak signals.

Does your S-Video A/V input work? I'd like to use my 1600 to capture DirecTV, or my Hi-8 video. I can't get MP to do anything with it even after establishing the 'channel' from the TV tab of the configure. Any help would be appreciated!

 

[garry]

I've been using a 1600 w/s-video under TVE3 for a few months, works great. Picture quality looks a bit better than my PVR-500.

 

[Andrew H]

Here it is: https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/showpost.php?p=137997&postcount=20

SIX MONTHS ago this poster discovered the erroneous line of code in the CaptureCardDefinitions.xml file, edited his personal copy and posted it for all to use!

My HVR-1600 now does NTSC and A/V capture as it should! I don't know what it takes to get the master file corrected but we surely need to let someone know for 0.2.3.0 RC3.

As far as you HVR-1800 owners go... A buddy of mine created an entry in his CaptureCardDefinitions.xml file and got the ATSC portion working. I can try to get a copy of it and post.

An interesting side note -- picture on the box shows model 74021 LF; REV B3B2 and the UPC says WinTV-HVR-1600; model 1178; SL-1178-V2.1-US yet it identifies itself as the 74040070 That's OK seeing as the latest CaptureCardDefinitions.xml has FOUR models: 74000, 74020, 74040, and 74440. That dude's modified file was created before the last (74440) model was identified in 0.2.3.0 RC2. Also, he only deleted the bad line of code for the 74000 & 74040 models -- so if you have these others you need to use WordPad or some editing tool and correct your file to get NTSC working on your MP installation!

THANKS guys... I heard you all talking about this error but didn't LISTEN! I'm glad the bulb went on, yesterday! I hope my post clarifies the differences in HVR-1600's for those still having problems getting NTSC running on it.


UPDATE: Billy and Joe -- I highlighted the 74440 for you! It is included in the latest file and has the bad line of code. Your 74440 is not included in the xml file on page 2 hence update your file and see if that fixes it! I'm also assuming the TV2 (TV3) engines don't have this error because posters are saying the 1600 works fine under it.

 

[farmertom]

Hauppuage HVR-1800 ASTC settings.

Hi,
As requested i am posting the settings i have for my Hauppuage HVR-1800. This is for the ASTC tuner only.. this works for me, I hope it works for you...

<capturecard commercialname="Hauppauge WinTV HVR1800 (ATSC)" capturename="Hauppauge WinTV 885 TS Capture" devid="ven_14f1&amp;dev_8880&amp;subsys_78010070&amp;rev_0f">
<capabilities tv="true" radio="true" mpeg2="true" mce="false" sw="false" bda="true"/>
<tv>
<interface cat="capture" video="3" audio="4" mpeg2="1" sectionsandtables="2"/>
<filters>
<filter cat="networkprovider" name="Microsoft ATSC Network Provider" checkdevice="false"/>
<filter cat="tunerdevice" name="Hauppauge WinTV 885 BDA Tuner/Demod" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="capture" name="Hauppauge WinTV 885 TS Capture" checkdevice="true"/>
</filters>
<connections>
<connection sourcefilter="networkprovider" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="tunerdevice" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="tunerdevice" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="0"/>
</connections>
</tv>
</capturecard>


farmertom

 

[MrBungle67]

For all of you who have issues with the HVR 1600 with MP 0.2.2.0 OR 0.2.3.0RC1(no tuner detected) AND 0.2.3.0RC2 (tuner detected but no signal detected), you probably have the 74440070 version of the HVR1600 (that you can check in your device manager). This version of the HVR1600 was not in the capturecarddefinitions.xml file in the 0.2.2.0 and 0.2.3.0RC1. They added it in the 0.2.3.0RC2, which made me really happy when I saw that my card was finally detected.....but no luck....no signal detected!

So after spending hours on this forum and especialy on this thread, and after comparing really clothely my capturecarddefinitions.xml file from the 0.2.3.0RC2 and the one on page 2 of this thread, here is what I found:


In the file from page 2 (with the 74040070 tuner) :

<capturecard commercialname="Hauppauge WinTV HVR1600 (NTSC)" capturename="Hauppauge WinTV 418 Video Capture" devid="ven_14f1&amp;dev_5b7a&amp;subsys_74040070&a mp;rev_00">
<capabilities tv="true" radio="false" mpeg2="true" mce="false" sw="false" bda="false"/>
<tv>
<interface cat="encoder" video="2" audio="3" mpeg2="1" sectionsandtables="5"/>
<filters>
<filter cat="tvtuner" name="Hauppauge WinTV 418 Tuner" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="tvaudio" name="Hauppauge WinTV 418 TvAudio" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="crossbar" name="Hauppauge WinTV 418 Crossbar" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="capture" name="Hauppauge WinTV 418 Video Capture" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="encoder" name="Hauppauge WinTV 418 Encoder" checkdevice="true"/>
</filters>
<connections>
<connection sourcefilter="tvtuner" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="crossbar" sinkpin="%tvtuner%"/>
<connection sourcefilter="tvtuner" sourcepin="1" sinkfilter="tvaudio" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="tvaudio" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="crossbar" sinkpin="%audiotuner%"/>
<connection sourcefilter="crossbar" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="crossbar" sourcepin="1" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="1"/>
<connection sourcefilter="capture" sourcepin="4" sinkfilter="encoder" sinkpin="0"/>
</connections>
</tv>
</capturecard>


In the original file from 0.2.3.0 RC2 (with the 74440070 tuner):

<capturecard commercialname="Hauppauge WinTV HVR1600 (NTSC)" capturename="Hauppauge WinTV 418 Video Capture" devid="ven_14f1&amp;dev_5b7a&amp;subsys_74440070&a mp;rev_00">
<capabilities tv="true" radio="false" mpeg2="true" mce="false" sw="false" bda="false"/>
<tv>
<interface cat="capture" video="2" audio="3" mpeg2="1" sectionsandtables="5"/>
<filters>
<filter cat="tvtuner" name="Hauppauge WinTV 418 Tuner" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="tvaudio" name="Hauppauge WinTV 418 TvAudio" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="crossbar" name="Hauppauge WinTV 418 Crossbar" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="capture" name="Hauppauge WinTV 418 Video Capture" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="encoder" name="Hauppauge WinTV 418 Encoder" checkdevice="true"/>
</filters>
<connections>
<connection sourcefilter="tvtuner" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="crossbar" sinkpin="%tvtuner%"/>
<connection sourcefilter="tvtuner" sourcepin="1" sinkfilter="tvaudio" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="tvaudio" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="crossbar" sinkpin="%audiotuner%"/>
<connection sourcefilter="crossbar" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="crossbar" sourcepin="1" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="1"/>
<connection sourcefilter="capture" sourcepin="4" sinkfilter="encoder" sinkpin="0"/>
</connections>
</tv>
</capturecard>
</capturecards>


So I first deleted the line as specified in previous posts, I changed radio="true" by "false", and I tried to replace "capture" by "encoder"....and that's it! Worked perfectly!

I think it would be an easy fix in the next release.
I hope I'll help some of you guys with this post!


Damien

 

[Khidr]

Alright, I've been through this thread, have installed, uninstalled various MP versions, latest, svn, etc... I did catch that my card was the 7444070 version, made the appropriate changes, and still nothing... It tunes for both atsc and ntsc, then I get black screen, and no signal detected in mp.

I am using mp on a vista machine, and am able to get decent qam and analogue in wintv (hauppauge's app), and gbdvr. Anything else for me to try? I can post logs tonight

Thanks.

 

[Andrew H]

Not to insult you, but the changes above are to the capturecarddefinitions.xml file. Using the ENCODER version should allow MP to identify your 7444070 and perform the channel scan from within the setup. BEWARE you will need to delete any channels from previous scans as MP will not ADD new channels if it thinks they're "old" e.g. previously scanned.

I have the 74040 and never had any issue with ATSC, only the NTSC was difficult to do. You DO still need the RC2 version of the file to begin with BECAUSE it has the ATSC half of the card identified. The thing is, if MP doesn't recognize your version at the Setup/CaptureCards tab then how did you even get to running MP? Use the MP-configuration and get the cards all set before you even open the main MP program.

 

[Khidr]

no insult... that's the file I made the changes to, and I have no problem with Mediaportal identfying both the ntsc and atsc/qam tuners, I have no problem with it going ahead with the scan, it's just that it only scans black screens, and when I open it in mp I get no signal detected.

But it does find the cards, and adds them fine. Sorry for not being clear. I opened the main program on the off chance that the tuning preview might not have been working, to double check that I had no signal.

 

[diehard2]

If anyone can attach the xml file for the latest svn with the appropriate corrections, I'll upload it. About quality control, we only support that on the hauppauge 100-500 line of products. I don't have the documentation for the 1600 or 1800.

 

[MrBungle67]

I'll do it tonight (in like 3-4 hours).

I'm now working since 3 weeks with the HVR1600 (version 74440070) with absolutly no problem, direct watching, timeshift, recording......everything perfect! Of course, it's a must to have 0.2.3.0 RC2.

Damien