initial support for Hauppuage HD-PVR (2 Viewers)

[antonehenry]

Is anybody using something besides the March SVN update? It's always been so unstable for me. I just did switch back from vista to xp, and the stable versions of everything have been phenomenal.

PS What versions of TV Series and Moving Pictures are "stable" with the latest SVN in garry's original post?

PPS StreamedMP with those too? Anyone know?

 

[ixian]

I'm kind of at a loss why you'd be using an SVN that old in the first place. 1.0.2 works perfectly well with the HDPVR. So does the 1.1 beta.

As for Streamed MP, it's version 8.x for the 1.0.x series and the new 9.x for the 1.1.x beta series.

 

[antonehenry]

Hmm... I checked to see if the HDPVR showed up in 1.0.2 when I was using it, but I didn't see it. Will test again.

 

[sjeffrey]

Hmm... I checked to see if the HDPVR showed up in 1.0.2 when I was using it, but I didn't see it. Will test again.

Just go with 1.1.0 beta
I'm not on it yet but I have been using 1.1.0 alpha + svn update for a while now quite succesfully.

 

[antonehenry]

Well it's showing up in 1.0.2, even got the s-video channels mapped once. (they seem to let me test if it's working in the past.) Can't get it to start time shifting once it comes to the big show. I seriously hate how awesome MP can look, cause I'd abandon it all together.

Guess I'll just try 1.1.0 beta then. This thing is hopeless, I don't know what you have all done to get it working stable. I had it for a while, but it wouldn't record for anything and hated me and the world. I just changed back to xp hoping for more luck.

edit: Can't get it to start timeshifting what so ever. i don't think it's MP's fault, the blue light of the HDPVR doesn't turn on, and I don't know where my TME is to test another program. hmmm.

 

[sjeffrey]

I'm assuming TME is installed, so you should have the correct directshow filters installed.
Try turning the PVR unit off wait a few seconds then turn it back on. Then restart TVServer service.
Try timeshifting then and see if it works.

 

[antonehenry]

Nope, TME is gone. I don't know where to find it again. I don't think it was on a seperate disc when I installed the HD PVR. I thought it was on the Hauppauge one. Just tried downloading ArcSoft TotalMedia 3.5 to see if that might do anything... =[

And it doesn't, so I am at a complete loss.

 

[sjeffrey]

Nope, TME is gone. I don't know where to find it again. I don't think it was on a seperate disc when I installed the HD PVR. I thought it was on the Hauppauge one. Just tried downloading ArcSoft TotalMedia 3.5 to see if that might do anything... =[

And it doesn't, so I am at a complete loss.

You have to get TME installed and make sure TME can record from the PVR. If that doesn't work then there's nothing MP can do. There are ways to get the PVR to work without TME but I think you need a bit more experience with the setup before going down that route. TME is the easiest way to go.

 

[ixian]

Seconding; I would hunt high and low for that disk if I were you. I know with most hardware like video cards the disk is something you can use as a coaster because you can always get newer drivers/software online but the HDPVR isn't like that. The version of TME that comes with it is not only the only version that supports the HDPVR (as you discovered, even newer retail versions don't) but it is in fact the only "supported" way to even manage the settings for the thing. And it isn't available for download. Essentially, what happened was Hauppauge outsourced the actual management of the thing to TME and pays them for the OEM bundle. That's really the crux of the problem - you have two companies involved in the total management of one device.

As SJeffery mentioned, there is a third party command line hack that lets you adjust settings, etc and make recordings without TME, but it is user-unfriendly to the extreme.

If this seems stupid to you, don't worry, you aren't wrong, but it is what it is. I think we all went through this - the whole process of setting the HDPVR up, even outside of MediaPortal, is so non-intuative it's not funny. Bascially you have to:

Install the OEM version of TME that came with it.
Update it using the update tool it installs (the only way to get those updates, you can't download them manually)
Get the latest HDPVR driver (1.5.6 at the moment) from the Hauppauge website - one of the few things you can download and ironically, one of the few things the auto-updater DOESN'T update

Run TME, choose record, verify you can see a live stream from the HDPVR
Then use the ADJUST and SETTINGS options to actually set up the HDPVR (bitrate, etc). This last part threw me off at first because it never occured to me that in order to manage the HDPVR itself - for use in any application - I'd have to do it through the recording menu in TME. This also makes remote management near-impossible, which is why someone went to the trouble of developing a command line tool to do it.

Regardless, it's what you need to do first before you even think about using this thing with MediaPortal. If you can't see or capture video in TME nothing in MePo will fix that for you.

 

[antonehenry]

Thanks for the help guys.

Found some version of TME on the internet floating about. I have the original Hauppage CD, but it doesn't have TME on it anywhere. So I'm guessing it was on a separate disc. Now I'm just waiting on Schedules Direct to update me, and hopefully we'll be back in business.

Man, how many hours can I burn on continually tweaking my htpc? lol

edit:

damn thing won't start timeshifting now. just hangs when i select, "tv on"

better put on a pot of coffee

here's the end of my log

2009-09-11 14:36:12.875000 [PowerEventThread]: TV service PowerEventThread 49372
2009-09-11 14:36:12.875000 [PowerEventThread]: TV service PowerEventThread 49372
2009-09-11 14:36:13.640625 [10]: HDPVR: Graph running
2009-09-11 14:36:13.640625 [10]: HDPVR: subch:0 OnGraphStarted
2009-09-11 14:36:13.640625 [10]: subch:0 SetupPmtGrabberid 100 sid:1
2009-09-11 14:36:13.640625 [10]: subch:0 wait for pmt:100
2009-09-11 14:36:13.656250 [10]: subch:0 wait for pmt:100
2009-09-11 14:36:13.687500 [10]: subch:0 wait for pmt:100
2009-09-11 14:36:13.703125 [10]: subch:0 wait for pmt:100
2009-09-11 14:36:13.718750 [10]: subch:0 wait for pmt:100
2009-09-11 14:36:17.140625 [PowerEventThread]: TV service PowerEventThread 537
2009-09-11 14:36:17.140625 [PowerEventThread]: TV service PowerEventThread 537
2009-09-11 14:36:17.140625 [PowerEventThread]: TV service PowerEventThread 537
2009-09-11 14:36:17.140625 [PowerEventThread]: TV service PowerEventThread 537
2009-09-11 14:36:17.140625 [10]: subch:0 wait for pmt:100
2009-09-11 14:36:17.171875 [10]: subch:0 wait for pmt:100
2009-09-11 14:36:17.187500 [10]: subch:0 wait for pmt:100
2009-09-11 14:36:17.203125 [10]: subch:0 wait for pmt:100
2009-09-11 14:36:17.234375 [10]: subch:0 wait for pmt:100

This is usually where I get stuck. Everything is ready, then it won't start up. Kinda like ED.

another interesting thing... TVService will not be stopped, even manually after I attempt to start timeshifting. I have to restart.

using 1.0.2 and schedulesdirect 1.1b, and some random version of TME that works with HDPVR