TV Groups are not showing up in TVServer Setup (1 Viewer)

[kkendall]

3. Clean install of MP 1.0.0 with the SQL 2005 Express Option

And here is the first "problem". Why do you install 1.0.0 ?
Just run the 1.0.2 installer.

If you are talking about a upgrade of an existing 1.0.0 installatiuon. Then you must have skipped several steps in your description between "3." and "Everything fine, TV Groups visible."
Because:

• right after the installation -> there are no groups
• even if you do a scan in 1.0.0 or 1.0.1 -> there will be no groups
• in 1.0.0 and 1.0.1 it was required to enter MyTV to get the "all channels group" created at all.
• this is what has been fixed in 1.0.2.

Also please explain what you mean by "TV Groups gone" ?
Or please attach a screenshot (and LOGS !), because there are 2 possible meainings for "TV Groups gone".

Running the full 1.0.2 installer (so no upgrade) gives the same problems as reported in this thread.
Running the upgrade 1.0 => 1.0.2 gives the same problems as reported in this thread.
Running the upgrade 1.0.1 => 1.0.2 gives the same problems as reported in this thread.

I think he means he first installed 1.0 when it came out and he didn't notice any problems.
When 1.0.1 was released the tabs of the channelgroups (where you can sort your channels in your groups) were gone and they were still gone after the upgrade to 1.0.2.

 

[infinite.loop]

When 1.0.1 was released the tabs of the channelgroups (where you can sort your channels in your groups) were gone and they were still gone after the upgrade to 1.0.2.

And again, this is NOT A BUG.

::allready answered this::

 

[kkendall]

where the group tabs are missing.

The group Tabs in TV-Channels have been removed by Mr.Hipp, thats not a bug.

Groups are managed inside the "TV-Channels -> TV Groups" section.

Oh, ok...
So the online manual is wrong?! (see attached screenshot from the manual)

Digging deeper into it (man, it's a pain to plow through the manual structure...) I think I have found what I was looking for!
Here's what I found. Go to:
- Manual home
- MediaPortal TV-Server (current release Version 1.0.2) - TV-Server Manual
- Chapter 3: Configuration - D. MediaPortal TV-Server
- Chapter2: TV-Server Management - TV Channels
- scroll to the bottom of the page and click 'Groups'

Finally, this is where's described how you now have to sort, add and remove the channels!
Apparantly this has suddenly been changed since 1.0.1... and because this was not mentioned clearly, I guess this is causing a lot of the confusion.

An edited sentence from this part of the manual:
"The buttons in between allow you to add/remove channels from a group and order the channels in your group.(see second attached screenshotfrom the manual)"
This is what I was looking for!

 

[kkendall]

When 1.0.1 was released the tabs of the channelgroups (where you can sort your channels in your groups) were gone and they were still gone after the upgrade to 1.0.2.

And again, this is NOT A BUG.

::allready answered this::

We have to stop writing at the same time
:sorry:

 

[infinite.loop]

So the online manual is wrong?! (see attached screenshot from the manual)

The manual is _outdated_, because the developer who has removed the tabs, did not update the manual.

BUT, because of the confusion this change caused (and that i do not see that it improove anything), i have allready proposed to the team to bring it back.

If the team agrees to bring it back, and a developer volunteers to do that change, then grouptabs + sort ability will be back in 1.1.0.

 

[kkendall]

THat's allright, I don't mind that this has a new location, just anounce it to the usercommunity.
Through a short newsitem or something, I guess that would be enough.

 

[bounguine]

The group Tabs in TV-Channels have been removed by Mr.Hipp, thats not a bug.
Groups are managed inside the "TV-Channels -> TV Groups" section.

What for?
There's no preview option and frequency info in this section.
TOO BAD for sorting duplicates - now I have a mess of channels and I can't distinguish between them.
In TV-Channels I can't say what group one of the duplicates belongs to and in TV Groups - what channel I'm going to add to a group chosen.
Can someone bring the tabs in TV-Channels back?

 

[infinite.loop]

THat's allright, I don't mind that this has a new location,

the location is not new. it always was inside "TV-Channels->TVGroups".

the group tabs were available in addition to the "TV Groups" section..

The group Tabs in TV-Channels have been removed by Mr.Hipp, thats not a bug.
Groups are managed inside the "TV-Channels -> TV Groups" section.

What for?
There's no preview option and frequency info in this section.
TOO BAD for sorting duplicates - now I have a mess of channels and I can't distinguish between them.
In TV-Channels I can't say what group one of the duplicates belongs to and in TV Groups - what channel I'm going to add to a group chosen.
Can someone bring the tabs in TV-Channels back?

if you read my post from before, then you will find out that i allready proposed to revert this change.
personally, i also do not like it the way it is atm.

 

[bounguine]

I guess, we're all writing at the same time

 

[infinite.loop]

I guess, we're all writing at the same time

seems so.